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Culture of Thiruvananthapuram

Well written article. Nominating for the selected article candidature. -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me...)} :-) 10:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comments :- It is a well organised and good article. Needs some improvements.

1. Try to add more references in the article.

2. The section Cuisine and Festivals needs to be further expanded. They can be split in to two, if possible, and the festival section should incorporate other cultural festivals also apart from the religious festivals. Eg; Surya Festival, Swathi Musical Festival at Navarathri nights, etc. . --Samaleks 14:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comments. I have embedded my comments in the article. Apart from them, I find the article very weak in NPOV with lot of flowery terms. Try to tone down the article's language. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Why did the editors stop improving the article. It sure has a potential. Just needs a good copyedit and a few references. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 08:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Ambuj Saxena, I went thru some sections, as per your comments. Please find the reply below.

• Ayyipillai Asan (15th or 16th Century AD) : The century is uncertain. There is no much evidence about the life of this poet. Only his works are known.
• Swathi Thirunal in the realm of music has enriched even the cultural heritage of India.<!-- How were other poets able to contribute to cultural heritage of Kerala alone and not India? --> : The contributions of the other poets was to Malayalam language and literature, and thus confined to Kerala. Swati Thirunal's contribution was in to Carnatic music, and literature (Kirtanas in Carnatic Music).
• Kumaran Asan was the true representative of the cultural renaissance.<!-- How do we know that? --> : Internal link is added now for Kumaran Asan. The article reflects it.
• Same stands for Narayana Guru and Chattampi Swamikal
• <ref name="Mural Paintings"> {{cite web | publisher=National Informatics Centre | work=Arts and Culture in Trivandrum | url=http://trivandrum.nic.in/art.html | title=Mural Paintings in Trivandrum | accessdate=2006-09-30 }} </ref> <!-- Reference does not back the claims in the paragraph. Furthermore, it is from a non-neutral source. --> : The source is from one of the official sites of Trivandrum district, which is maintained by National Informatics Centre, which is definitely a neutral source. The page says " The Padhmanabha Swamy temple and the Koikkala temple at Attingal have several murals and paintings which are examples of 16th century Kerala paintings ", which reflects the claim in the paragraph.
• Sources added to the comments related to Raja Ravi Varma.

I will soon go thru the rest of the comments. Thanks a lot for pointing out the weak points... -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me...)} :-) 18:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Good progress. The article is moving in the right direction. However, the problem of references not backing the claims is still to be resolved. I have clarified my observations in the article text. More importantly, it is advised to use reliable sources only, and avoid self-published sources while passing value judgements. The government of Kerala will always say that Kerala is great and those associated with it were the best. Whenever such value judgement is included, it should be attributed to the source. For example, see Sachin Tendulkar and Lance Armstrong for examples on how to remain neutral while quoting value judgements. Once these problems are sorted out, I feel that the article would be worth being a SA on Indian portal. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 08:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• The article is progressing on the right track. Hoping that the few review comments remaining will also be addressed soon.--Samaleks 00:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

• All the comments are incorporated. Cheers, -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me...)} :-) 00:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Hmmm....not quite there, but good progress. I would support its inclusion as selected article now, and at the same time ask the editors to keep working on the article (preparing it for the FAC). — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

• Suppport - I too support, as the points I pointed out were taken care. --Samaleks 19:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)