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New start page

As you can all see I added the portal.. Do you think this is a good idea? I quite like it, with the warning at the top, makes the page more interesting. Otherwise it's just a bunch of topics with a definition of geography at the top. Obviously it still needs quite a bit of work and we can learn from all the other portals. I recommend that we scout around and find the best features of others and then try to copy them in improving the portal. --komencanto 08:26, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Wrong Greek word

The alternative word for γη is not γεια (which is the equivalent of "hello" in Greek) but γαια. Would someone with authority in this portal be as kind as to correct it?--Bill the Greek 07:42, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Done - --komencanto 11:33, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Revamped

In order to get the edit buttons in I used a different template on top of this one. It's easier to work with anyway. --komencanto 13:49, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Formatting

Most of the sections are on one side with a big blank on the other side. Why is it formatted this way? Brianjd | Why restrict HTML? | 09:32, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree, the width of this portal is too wide for most screens and doesn't fit as well as the others. I can't see what on the right hand side is forcing the right-hand column to not fit into its allocated space. Davidbod 22:37, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Brian was commenting on a previous version of this portal. I reformatted it in late December. I'm not sure what you meant by your first sentence, however. --cj | talk 07:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Broken language links

Two language links that used to look OK now just have question marks. Brianjd | Why restrict HTML? | 09:45, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Link to Geography Project

Should this be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_WikiProjects#Geography?

Template:Geography portal/Where to start

While looking for something else in the Template namespace, I found Template:Geography portal/Where to start. It is is unused, it should be deleted (probably through WP:TFD). BlankVerse 12:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC) dj rascal == Iron catastrophe needs improvement ==

Wikipedia:Science collaboration of the week

Physical oceanography is a current candidate on the Science collaboration. Vote for it if you want to see this article improved. --Fenice 07:18, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Core topics

Hello. I'm part of Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics working toward a release version of Wikipedia (on paper or CD).

If you're interested in helping, these are some related articles we plan to include:

Antarctica is a Featured Article candidate.

If you think these are ready, please let us know. You can see our proposed initial quality standards or learn more about the overall project.

Thanks.

Portal:Oceania

I've put down some thoughts about this proposed portal at Portal talk:Oceania. Please come and comment.-gadfium 03:17, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I created Category:Portal:Oceania to match the subcategorization of the other geography portals. —Doug Bell talk•contrib 00:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Central Valley

I've begun work on this portal and would like feedback, especially regarding standards for geography portals. Thanks so much. Elijahmeeks 01:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I renamed the portal to Portal:California Central Valley because Central Valley was too ambiguous (this also now matches the article California Central Valley.) —Doug Bell talk•contrib 08:27, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that. The difficulty, of course, with referring to it as the California Central Valley is that no one who lives there does so. It is referred to as 'The Central Valley' or 'The Great Central Valley' or one of the two specific valleys that make it up. I didn't want to do harm, as it were, to the locals by calling it the "California Central Valley" but there needed to be some kind of disambiguation done. Thanks for that and, especially, for the IE6 formatting. Elijahmeeks 17:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
You can change the name to something else if you like, but I have to warn you that renaming a portal page is a pain because you have to rename all the subpages. I was originally going to name it Portal:Central Valley in California, but decided to go with the name on the current article, assuming that that name must have consensus. But despite living in California (in San Diego), when I saw the name "Central Valley" I had to look at the portal to tell for certain if it was the California Central Valley—the page name really needs to include "California" to establish context. And no problem with the IE6 fix—I've fixed about 100 portal pages already since the problem was in the template used to create the pages. There's probably about 100 left to fix. —Doug Bell talk•contrib 19:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I don't believe this portal should exist at all. It is far too narrow a topic for a portal to cover. Rather, the Central Valley could/should be covered under a Portal:California. That state actually needs a portal when you consider that there are portals for Texas and even Utah.--cj | talk 00:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I agree about the need for a Portal:California, but a key requirement for a portal page is someone willing to take responsibility for creating and maintaining it. I don't see a problem with having the Portal:California Central Valley portal and hopefully at somepoint it will become a subportal for Portal:California. Certainly, given that there are portals on individual cities, having a portal cover the Central Valley, an area larger than many states, doesn't seem to be too narrowly focused. —Doug Bell talk•contrib 00:35, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Suggest deleting Category:Portal:Americas and reorganizing

I think Category:Portal:Americas should be removed from the hierarchy and replaced with Category:Portal:North America and Category:Portal:South America. This is the only place in the geography portal hierarchy where two continents are grouped into a subcategory. It's also the only top-level geography portal category without a main portal page, and I'm not sure it makes sense to create Portal:Americas.

Doing this would require the following:

Doing this stays with the geographic basis for organization rather than using a socio-political basis.

One option when doing this would be to keep Category:Portal:Latin America in addition to the above, but I would recommend against this.

—Doug Bell talk•contrib 22:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I've begun going through portals, looking at ones that seems no one is regularly maintaining, and making updates. With the portals now linked prominently on the main page, it's important that they be useful as a topic-oriented guide to topics with subportal, category, and article links, as well as featured content. With that in mind, I recently spent some time on Portal:North America and added links to all North American countries and territories, including those in the Caribbean and some that are in Latin America. Your suggested changes are all consistent with what I'm doing and I fully support your proposal. -Aude (talk | contribs) 22:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Version 1.0 project

I've started a page to work toward advancing geography entries for an eventual release version. It's at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Geography. Maurreen 03:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Place-specific collaborations

These might be worthing putting on the portal page.

Geography and places:

Maurreen 18:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Featured picture

I have set up the featured picture to rotate new pictures each week now, and queued them up through the end of June. The pictures are at Portal:Geography/Featured picture archive. The next step is to set up a queue for featured articles. -Aude (talk | contribs) 18:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Featured items & GAs

I have listed all the geography featured items & GAs at Wikipedia Gazetteer. Maurreen 08:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


This page has won an award

This was recieved on OTRS (ticket #2006071410015971) Raul654 02:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

From: "Mr Raven-Ellison" (email address removed)
To: Jimbo Wales (email address removed)
Cc: (email address removed)
Subject: Excellence Award for Wikipedia
Created: 07/14/2006 23:30:37

Dear Mr Wales,

We are delighted to write to tell you that Wikipedia has been nominated for and awarded a 'Giving Geography its Place' Award.

This award is given only to those companies and organisations that recognise the value of geography and use its language and concepts within the promotion and marketing of goods and services. The award is given in recognition of best practice in the use and promotion of geography. In the case of Wikipedia it is for the excellent Geography Portal.

Who receives an award and permission to display the 'Giving Geography its Place' logo is decided by professional geographers who are involved in the grassroots 'Give Geography its Place' (G.G.i.P.) Campaign. The purpose of this campaign is to encourage the media to label geography programmes and articles, employ commissioning editors for geography as they do in other subject areas and to recognise the value of geography in the national curriculum. You can find out more about the campaign at www.passion4geography.co.uk and we would like to encourage you to promote this website. If you are interested in supporting the campaign financially please do contact us with your thoughts. We are also developing a list of high profile people and companies that support and value geography education. If you would like to join this list please let us know.

The understanding of modern geography is vital to the stable and sustainable development of our communities and the environments in which we live. Many of the most pressing issues of the day including sustainable development, climate change, trade, poverty, migration, aging populations, water shortages, happiness and conservation to name a few, are best understood through the study of geography. It is for this reason that the campaign is especially pleased that Wikipedia has been given this award.

We would be grateful if you would contact us with an email address to which we can send you copies of the G.G.i.P. Award logo suitable for web and print publication. In the meantime I would like to congratulate you again and encourage you to keep using, promoting and spreading the word for geography.


Yours faithfully,

Daniel Raven-Ellison
David Rayner
Campaign Founder & Head of Geography Campaign Founder & Head of Geography

formatting to match other main portals

I think the outside border of this portal should be removed, so that all the browsbar portals are consistent. When surfing from portal to portal with the browsebar, this is the only portal that downshifts the browsebar, and it is slightly jarring.--ragesoss 02:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

OK with me. Maurreen 04:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

you could reduce the border a bit.

Portal:Atlas

please note Portal:Atlas and my concerns about it. dab (ᛏ) 11:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes it's redundant with Commons:Atlas. --de:Benutzer:Kolossos

Wikipedia-World

Hello, please take a look at: de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Georeferenzierung/Wikipedia-World/en there we have also a international map (around Tokio)

I hope we can found on this way a contact to the english community. Greeting de:Benutzer:Kolossos

GFDL

Would any contributors to Geography articles be willing to send DMCA takedown notices for Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks? Creekin.net is violating the GFDL. There's more information at that link, but it would be great if one of you could send a takedown and log it there. We have a template for this at Wikipedia:Standard_GFDL_violation_letter#PD_DMCA_takedown_notices. Let me know if you have questions. Superm401 - Talk 00:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Cities of the world

Is there any interest here to include a list of the world's capitol cities? I am currently trying to prioritize improving them all on WikiProject Cities Alan.ca 23:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Dominican Republic

Hello. Just wanted to ask if there is some new administrative division of the Dominican Republic or edits like this: [1] from this user [2] is just sneaky vandalism. Thank you. - Darwinek 10:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Underwater Lake

This is a question I hope some Marine Oceanographer might know. Awhile back I saw a documentary about the top ten most amazing ocean discoveries and one of them had to do with an underwater lake discovered. I'm not 100% sure but I think it was discovered in a tropical climate (I'm positive it is in the ocean and not a lake with in a lake). This 'underwater lake' was comprised of a different chemical more dense than water. The most fascinating part of it was that it had shores with tidal activity. Along its shores was a variety of marine life. I found an article about Carbon Dioxide Lakes but its not it. Does anyone know more about this 'underwater lake', where I might be able to find out more about it, and ideally some pictures? Thanks a bunch, I know its kind of vague but I think you guys can do it! Mkdwtalk

Recent policy changes limiting primary sources

There have been recent changes in the merging of WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:RS into WP:ATT, along with related changes at WP:N. One thing that may affect geographic projects is the tightening of the requirement for multiple secondary sources for all articles. Many geographic articles are created from a single primary source like census data or topo maps. Technically, this would subject these articles to deletion. If you have not checked these policies lately, you should. And be sure to check the supporting discussions. Remember WP policies and guidelines are supposed to incorporate a broad consensus. Dhaluza 20:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see anything at Wikipedia:Attribution that prevents an article from referencing only primary sources. Anyway, it is trivial to find a commercial map that shows the place (most location articles already have several such maps linked in the external links), so the "threat" has no teeth. --NE2 21:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Also look at WT:ATT and WT:N and check the edit histories to see what people are trying to include, particularly the recent WP:N edit war prior to protection. Dhaluza 21:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not looking at notability, since that's not a policy, but attribution explicitly allows "descriptive claims that can be checked by anyone without specialist knowledge" from primary sources. --NE2 22:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Maps

Where can I get a map for Davenport, Iowa and the Quad Cities? Ctjf83talk 18:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


Who's maintaining this portal?

Would like to know, SpencerT♦C 19:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Unnamed Mountains In Greenland

The two unamed mountains in Greenland are located at latitudes 77 N and 69 N. They are 9300 and 10730 feet tall,the shorter one being in the Knud Rasmussen Land and the taller one in the King Christian X Land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.241.146 (talk) 18:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Highest point on a great circle

Gentlemen, I would like to propose an additional method of rating the importance of a mountain, e.g., in addition to e.g., ultra prominent peaks.

It must be the highest point on a great circle.

And indeed, the more great circles it is the highest on, the more important it is in my scheme.

Several of these great circles might be edge-most great circles, delimiting areas -- which one could total up, giving a score for one mountain vs. another. Jidanni (talk) 07:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Your proposal sounds intriguing, but it is clearly original research. If you want a receptive audience for the idea, you could try prominence@yahoogroups.com. -- Spireguy (talk) 23:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Broken Sidebar

The sidebar appears broken, and missing a picture of Antarctica. 67.160.183.192 (talk) 02:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Should be fixed now, thanks for pointing it out. Apparition11 Complaints/Mistakes 05:45, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Very poor opening

The opening paragraph reads Geography studies the location, extent, distribution, frequency and interaction of all significant... This is very poor grammar. Geography cannot study anything. To study something one must be aware of one's existence. Geography is neither aware nor alive so how can it possibly study something. An analogy of the above sentence would be like writing John ran a race as The race ran John. The sentence in the opening section should be changed to that it actually looks like an English speaker wrote it. It should read something along the lines of Geography is the study of the location, extent, distribution, frequency and interaction of all significant... --MacTire02 (talk) 10:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. feydey (talk) 12:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Broken Link

The link over the picture to the Latin America portal goes to the deleted "South_America" portal. This should be fixed.--63.119.49.254 (talk) 18:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you. Art LaPella (talk) 19:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Selected picture nomination

Hi! I would like to nominate this image of the Danau Sentarum National Park to be featured on the portal. --Elekhh (talk) 02:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Done: Portal:Geography/Featured picture/2010, week 51. Jujutacular talk 03:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

of islands and peninsulas

Does a causeway turn an island into a peninsula? Both Sylt and Marken are connected to the mainland by causeways, but Sylt is called an island, and Marken a peninsula and former island. One of them must be wrong.--Ratzer (talk) 20:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Geographic terms are often used in an inconsistent manner. Probably, those respective articles just go by whatever reliable sources call them. You may want to try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science, or at those articles' respective talk pages. Regards, Jujutacular talk 21:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanx, but I still don't know, inconsistent which way? According to the correct definitions of islands and peninsulas, are both islands or are both peninsulas?--Ratzer (talk) 08:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Geography plays pretty loose with its terms. See the second paragraph of the current version of the article island. My guess would be, technically speaking, they are not islands anymore when connected to a land mass. However if all sources still refer to them as islands, we can't conduct original research. Jujutacular talk 08:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
In the German WP the definitions of island and peninsula are more specific. Accordingly, when you connect an island by a causeway to the mainland, you don't change it into a peninsula. Another thing is broad-scale land reclamation, which indeed changes islands into peninsulas or mainland, such as Nordstrand, Wieringen or Shark Island. Assuming that the definitions of island and peninsula are the same in English, it would be wrong to copy information from a "reliable source" that is known to be wrong, IMHO, and it would not be "original search" to correct such information.--Ratzer (talk) 12:38, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Well, that's one difference between German and English. At any rate, this is probably not the best place to take this up, I would try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography. Jujutacular talk 20:45, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
So be it. Thanks for directing me to that forum.--Ratzer (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Selected Picture

Has anybody else noticed that the selected picture is absent? Gilderien (talk) 06:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Just did it and the next three. I'm the only one that has been doing so recently. Feel free to browse Wikipedia:Featured_pictures#Places or Commons:COM:FP#Places for unused images and schedule some more. Let me know if you have any questions. Jujutacular talk 13:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I would like to convert the "Selected Picture" section to randomly display one of a set, as opposed to the current format of needing a new one every month. Questions/concerns? Jujutacular talk 17:35, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
See Portal:Geography/Selected picture. Feel free to start populating entries. I'm going to try to keep in mind a good geographic spread, and a good spread in style of images to keep in interesting. Thanks for the confirmation. Jujutacular talk 03:22, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Featured portal drive

Featured portal drive. Reformatting = in progress. ;) Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 06:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit access to semi-protected Geography

I respectfully request permission to edit this semi-protected Portal. It is, obviously, well written. But as well written as it may be, it omits the use of the definite article (the) before some nouns. I am an autoconfirmed user and credited with about 100 edits. Thank you. Pendright (talk) 20:37, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I can make edits for you if you so desire and all is verifiable.Moxy (talk) 22:02, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this about the Intro? Edits should not be made to the Intro text. It should be the exact same as that over at the article, Geography. — Cirt (talk) 23:39, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


Selected article redlink

It's clear from Portal:Geography/Featured article/archive that no-one is picking a monthly article for this portal. Would anyone object if I switched it to use {{Random portal component}}, using redirects so that the randomiser chooses one of the existing monthly sub-pages? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes I'm planning on doing that myself and revamping the portal. :) — Cirt (talk) 16:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I've switched it. There are ten sub-pages so far using the archived selections from February 2006 to July 2007 - the other months in that range are no longer featured articles. For most of them I've just copied the text from the old sub-page, so it will be five years out of date. But it's a start... -- John of Reading (talk) 08:01, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay thanks, I'll get on it soon. — Cirt (talk) 17:52, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


Portal:Geography/Recognized content

This above linked page should have some neat content generated by a bot, at which point it can be added into the portal main page. :) — Cirt (talk) 04:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup

I see there is both a Portal:Geography/Featured picture list (currently in use) and a Portal:Geography/Selected picture list, no longer in use. I suggest deleting the second one to avoid confusion. However in the FP list I don not understand the presence of FP12, FP15, FP16 and FP17 which are good illustrations of architecture, not geography. If nobody minds I will be replacing these. Also would suggest increasing the image size to 400px. --ELEKHHT 00:09, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree with all of these wonderful recommendations, please help to implement them and the portal is currently undergoing a re-haul for a Featured Portal Drive as part of quality improvement. :) — Cirt (talk) 23:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I have increased the image sizes to 400px. The ones that were already larger than 400px I left as is. I agree about the architecture pics. Jujutacular (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
I've also deleted Portal:Geography/Selected picture (and subpages), and finished changing the architecture images to more geography-related images. Jujutacular (talk) 00:41, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Great! all looks much better now. --ELEKHHT 13:41, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much. — Cirt (talk) 04:20, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Featured portal candidate

This portal is a featured portal candidate, discussion at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Geography, and also transcluded, below. — Cirt (talk) 23:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

The following is an archived discussion of a featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the portal's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured portal candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The portal was promoted by OhanaUnited 18:43, 1 May 2013 [3].

Portal:Geography

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science ‎, Portal talk:Geography, Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South America, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Europe , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oceans, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography, User talk:Cirt , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Antarctica, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Asia, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject North America , Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa. — Cirt (talk) 21:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Self-nomination. See archived peer review. I believe the portal meets the standards for Featured Portal status. Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 21:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Apologies in advance:

  • Selected articles should all be roughly the same size as each other, give or take a half line or so, in order to make sure that the random selection does not overly effect the shape of the portal itself. Therefore:
    • Selected articles 1, 5, 7, 21 through 25, 27, and 30 are all too short
    • Selected articles 8, 11, 16, and 16 are too long.
  • Selected biographies should also all roughly be the same size as each other. Selected biographes 2, 10, 14, and (to a lesser degree) 17 are all too short.
  • Selected quotes 1, 3, 19, 20, 21, 26, 28, 29, and 30 are all primarily focused on things other than geography. Of those listed, perhaps only 21 is passable.
  • The DYKs for PlumpJack Winery, Lympstone Commando railway station, Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall, Craigiehall, Yorkshire Museum, opt-outs， John Grant's， Douglas County Courthouse， Schuster Building, beer museum, Ballard Carnegie Library, and Altes Stadthaus all strike me as being too distantly related to Geography to warrant inclusion.
  • Portal:Geography/DYK/23 is incomplete

That's quite a bit to do, but I think that it all needs doing before this can be called an FPO. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Reply to comments by Sven Manguard

Thanks very much for the specific suggestions, I'll get on some of these recommendations soon, and address it back here. — Cirt (talk) 05:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

  1. Selected articles = swapped out some where I could, elsewhere expanded text of others.
  2. Selected bios = swapped out the shorter ones.
  3. Selected quotes = swapped out those that were complained about, above.
  4. DYKs = swapped out those that were not up to the satisfaction of the reviewer, above.

Hopefully this is satisfactory, — Cirt (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm still seeing a very large variance between the largest and smallest selections in some of the randomized sections. Take a look at this screenshot from Portal:Massachusetts. All of the items are, when the image and everything is factored in, almost the same size. This allows for a very consistent layout for the portal itself. The selected article on Karnataka is almost twice the size as the selected article Mount Tambora when it appears in the Portal:Geography main view, and that throws things out of alignment. I really don't care what size you choose, as I am notorious for using larger than traditional sizes for my article blurbs, what's important is that you keep all of the selections that are in the same "Selected ____" roughly the same size. If you give me a few days, I'll be able to update you as to if I can get more hands on in fixing it, but I can't make any promises now. I haven't looked at the other sections yet, I can do that later. Sven Manguard Wha? 19:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for offering to help fix this, I really appreciate that. I'll look into it a bit more as well and make some more fixes. Keep me posted here, — Cirt (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, would it be possible to use template:wide image for the panoramas? We'd need two separate format templates, but I don't think any of the portal syntax would have an issue with that. Thoughts? Sven Manguard Wha? 01:47, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps you can try it out and update here with a link, as an example? — Cirt (talk) 02:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
You're asking me to do something that requires actual knowledge of templates. I can't do that; all I can do is "borrow" existing code. Sven Manguard Wha? 02:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, there's an example at Portal:Oregon/Selected panorama. — Cirt (talk) 02:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Would you be willing to credit me as a co-nominator if I go in and even out all of the articles, and do some miscellaneous other repairs? Sven Manguard Wha? 05:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure, that would be lovely, thank you for the help! — Cirt (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Huzzah! Now I can work extensively on it without feeling like I have a conflict of interest when I cast a support vote. Weird, entirely self imposed ethical quandary avoided! Sven Manguard Wha? 23:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay, sounds great. — Cirt (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. As nominator. — Cirt (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


  • Below is the stuff I will be doing over the next <indefinite amount of time>. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Standardize selected article lengths  not yet done
Standardize selected biography lengths  Done
Bring selected biography entries to 20  Done
Standardize citation style for quotes  Done
Fix image sizes  Done

The four bios I am thinking of adding are Richard Hakluyt, James Tod, Shen Kuo, and George Cressey. The first three are FAs, the fourth a GA (I'd prefer an FA if one can be found though.) Sven Manguard Wha? 05:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

All looks great, as long as we stay quality of WP:GA or above. :) — Cirt (talk) 22:20, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
The image at George Cressey's article is non-free, and I can't think of either a good free replacement or a good replacement person. I've done the other three, and I'm going to punt the 20th bio down the road until the rest is done. Sven Manguard Wha? 00:06, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Maybe we could find a different bio instead of George Cressey, one that happens to have an available free use image? — Cirt (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Changed the sizes of all of the images. Selections 25 and especially 26 and 27 really don't have good dimensions, but I did what I could. 3/5ths of the tasks I wanted completed are done. This is also Sven Manguard 22:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
With the addition of Fridtjof Nansen, we now have 20 biographes, all FA quality, and all within a third of a line in size from each other (on the smaller screen I'm using to do this). This is also Sven Manguard 22:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and while I origonally had no intention of claiming Wikicup points for this, after spending six hours reading through every FA quality bio I could find before getting to Nansen (why couldn't his name have been Fridtjof Ansen?!), I sure as hell am going to claim points now. :S This is also Sven Manguard 22:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

THANK YOU very much, things are looking a lot better, major quality improvements. Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 23:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't (formally) have OCD, but I have enough of the tendencies that it makes portalcraft a natural fit for me. I only wish that I had more time to do it. Alas, RL commitments keep me away too often... Sven Manguard Wha? 05:21, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, agreed that portal quality improvement is fun stuff. — Cirt (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.

Article:[Nation-state name] border

Suggest creating articles which deal with just the topic of border, as the border has transformed over time, and this is because we usually just have a nation name which is somewhere in between a place name and a peoples name, where major transformations and displacements are in themselves a topic sufficient for a separate meta article. Thanks, -Kiipanraken (talk) 03:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Village Pump proposal to delete all Portals

Editors might be interested to see a discussion concerning the proposed deletion of all Portals across Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#RfC:_Ending_the_system_of_portals Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Notice from the Portals WikiProject

WikiProject Portals is back!

The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.

As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.

There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.

And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.

From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Side panel map radio buttons

The side panel radio buttons of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore lets people see many more maps than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai . They should be standardized. Jidanni (talk) 16:46, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Portal Update

As I presented HERE I am making edits in order to convert this portal to a single page layout. Despite its rich history, high number of edits and views, practically all of the portal's content is dated, 2012/2013 and had simple errors, like as in the max parameter of the Template Random portal component that block the complete display of content.

Ping the usual editors of the portal for suggestions and to follow my edits. @Northamerica1000, The Transhumanist, Aude, Apparition11, Cirt, CJ, MONGO, Gwernol, Feydey, Gscshoyru, and Spangineer:Guilherme Burn (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000:I find a "Selected article" section more interesting, where articles can be inserted more freely. To display "Feature content" a section of its own. As I did in Portal:Religion. What do you think?Guilherme Burn (talk) 12:14, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
@Guilherme Burn: It would expand options to rename the "Featured article" box to "Selected article", because then GA-class articles could also be used in the portal. Another idea is to leave the Featured article section in place and create a new "Good article" or "Selected article" box. Either way works for me. Sounds like you may be more for the latter, which I'm fine with. As an example, check out Portal:Food, which has its own separate FA, GA and Selected article boxes, among others. Either way, I feel that expanding by adding transclusions that display article summaries, so people can read some of the content, is superior to a simple list of articles. North America1000 12:18, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
From spot checks (haven't checked all at this time), all of the articles in the Selected article and Selected biograophy boxes appear to all be FA-class. North America1000 12:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000:I would like to question two of your editions:

  • The {{Purge link portals}} Template is quite useless in this layout, I think its presence is more polluting than helping.
  • The {{icon}} template seems to be better for illustrating the portal, like in Portal:Religion.

What do you think?Guilherme Burn (talk) 00:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Possible New Map?

On the front page of the Wikipedia Geography Portal, the map listed, if zoomed into the right place, will display Burundi's capital as Bujumbura. Can we get an updated map, one that will correctly display the capital as Gitega? ItsDaBunnyYT (talk) 16:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Portal updates

The following updates have been performed to the portal. North America1000 15:27, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Expanded the portal with the addition of more FA-class articles, many of which are listed at Portal:Geography/Featured article (diff, diff, diff).
  • Restored the Selected anniversaries section. It is unclear why it was removed.
  • Restored the Featured biography section. It is unclear why it was removed.
  • Moved dynamic content (purgable content that changes) upward in the portal, and static content downward. This provides readers with more immediate choices compared to first viewing static content, which does not change.
  • Updated portal using Template:Transclude random excerpt, providing current, up-to-date information that is verbatim to article content. A consensus approving the usage of transclusion templates in portals was formed at this Village Pump discussion. Used some FA-class articles from Portal:Geography/Featured biography.
  • Expanded the Featured article section with an assortment of entries from Wikipedia:Featured articles § Geography and places, expanding the scope of what the portal covers geographically (diff, diff).
  • Added a few more various FA-class articles to the Featured article section, to round-out the portal with a more comprehensive topical overview (diff).
  • Added an article to the Featured biography section (diff)

FA-class geography articles

Below are more FA-class geography-related articles that can be used to expand the portal, copied here from Wikipedia:Featured articles § Geography and places. North America1000 16:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Geography and places

Recognized content

This section has been merged into Portal:Geography/Recognized content. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Geography Gr12

What is the relationship between climate change and the regularity of drought 41.114.90.181 (talk) 17:41, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

i need relationship between climate change and regularity of draught — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:31FF:76:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 09:01, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Impact of South Indian High pressure on Social — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:32FF:9:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 06:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

What is a global warming and climate change adaptation and what are the effects of global warming — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:31FF:7:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 10:02, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

This page is for improving Wikipedia's geography portal. You may be able to get help at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. Certes (talk) 18:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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