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}} The article refers to the 18th century BC. Shouldn't this be 8th century? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RMcPhillip (talkcontribs) 13:02, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why was this article renamed and most of it's content removed in April 2013 without discussion? --Steverci (talk) 23:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Becasuse Humanity in general uses the current terms. The history of Armenia is not here to dictate others what to name the cities. if for last 1000 years it has been Cavushtepe why it should be Haykaberd now? You used the Term of France and Gaul well you go here as well, Do we call current day France Gaul or do we go and rename French cities to its Gaulic names? This should answer to your question please stop disruptive editing and POV Agulani (talk) 06:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:COMMONNAME: Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. It has been Haykaberd for over 2,000 years before a name change less than a century ago, the site is primarily associated with Hayk and should reflect that. --Steverci (talk) 14:07, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The article's name is Haykaberd, so should be as per Wikipedia guidelines. Btw, I think there is no consensus on humanity in general. --92slim (talk) 23:43, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Çavuştepe is the name that is used in all academic sources that describe the site as it exists now. However Agulani is incorrect to state that it has been Çavuştepe "for the last 1000 years", I doubt that it has been Çavuştepe for more than 50 or 60 years. Trouble is, this article is not much about Çavuştepe as a physical site, but mostly about a legend that was attached to the site and that gave the name Haykaberd to it. If considerably more were to be added to the article about the archaeological site, the Urartian temple/palace/fortress complex, then the argument for a rename to Çavuştepe would be very strong. Of course neither Çavuştepe or Haykabert is the original name of the site. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 14:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, Steverci broke Wikipedia's rules by renaming the article. It already had had one rename, so any further renames are required to be considered controversial and Steverci should have proposed the latest rename on the talk page, set down an argument for it, and obtained consensus for that argument being correct, before making any name change. Agulani - if you wanted you could take this fact to an administrator and ask them to revert the name change back to Çavuştepe. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 15:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User thank you, i will raise this issue because i'm tired of constant vandalism of every Azeri and Turkish article. There has to be limit to Armenizing and Historical correctness. Wikipedia is here to present neutral point of view Agulani (talk) 05:31, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]