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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kimikel talk 02:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough. Although WP:DYKLEN does not address this, I am not happy when an article just barely meets the length requirements thanks to repeating a significant portion of its content in the lead pararaph or lead section. Without said repetition, this article contains about 1350 characters of prose. I also do not think that a minister opening a chess championship is particularly interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Surtsicna: Well, the thing is, it is what a lede is supposed to do, to summarize the basics, and while I try to keep the lede as necessarily short as possible, in this case the lede just happened to summarize the entire body in only a third of its size. And to be honest, I just found it unusual for a health minister to open a national chess championship during their tenure, which is why it felt interesting to have as a hook. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to note since this page is now at 1394 B (below the 1500 B minimum) due to MOS:LEADSTUB cleanup that I would like to expand the article on Friday or Saturday (when I have more time) or earlier in case it's possible to find a sufficiently interesting hook from there. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've expanded this article to 2322 B and this is the most hooky I can get, but it's borderline and 199 characters, so if ALT0 to 2 aren't enough, I can withdraw this nom.
Hope this help. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article looks much more substantial now. There is some fluff, however. I do not think it is encyclopedically vital to note that she congratulated someone on election, or that she attended a memorial service. The bit about her donating money might be seen as promotional. And what was she congratulated for at the chess championship? ALT1 is an improvement, but I wonder if something could be done with the counterfeit prescription scandal. That sounds intriguing. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: If it helps, at the least they were covered by national mainstream media outlets. And the congratulation was at a different meeting, not the chess championship. I've expanded more on the counterfeit prescription scandal, but I gotta sleep now before I can cover the rest. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: @Miraclepine: has done some more work on this. Would you able to check back into this?--Launchballer 15:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I've added more on the meeting with the Turkish health minister and the scandal. Not sure on this, but here's ALT3:
ALT3: ... that Northern Cypriot Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra wanted the country to have its first qualified pharmaceutical facility, saying "if we do not produce, we will be destroyed"? Source: “Kendi ülkemizde, nitelikli, işe yarayan ilaç fabrikası görmek istiyorum. Çağrımı yineliyorum” vurgusunu yapan ... Altuğra, “Üretmezsek yok oluruz; kendi ülkemizde ilaç fabrikamızı kurmak zorundayız” dedi./Emphasizing that “I want to see a qualified, working pharmaceutical factory in our own country. I reiterate my call,” Altuğra ... said, “If we do not produce, we will be destroyed; we have to establish our own pharmaceutical factory in our own country.”
Hope this helps. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did the opposition have anything to say about her in the context of the scandal? Political biographies can easily veer off into bias. And I think I have a good hook:
ALT4: ... that Northern Cypriot Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra warned that her country would be destroyed unless it started producing drugs?
What do you think? Surtsicna (talk) 19:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I couldn't find any such sources even in Turkish, so what should I remove, maybe the "witnessed the scandal's investigation with sadness" part? Oh, and the ALT4 looks good. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:24, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: Just needed to remind you because this nom will time out on November 4 (two months after this DYK was submitted). ミラP@Miraclepine 03:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Miraclepine. Yes, I would lose the sadness part. I hope someone else can review ALT4 by 4 November if we are in agreement that it is the best one. If nobody does by 4 November, I choose ALT3 (sligthly amended). Surtsicna (talk) 15:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: Done and that should be it for now. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:58, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe ALT4 checks out in the sentence beginning "In October 2023", so ticking this off.--Launchballer 13:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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