Talk:1932 Prussian coup d'état

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A pretext ...

The true reason ...

This entire article is only supported by a single source written in German. - Komowkwa (talk) 11:13, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On 19 November 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Preußenschlag to 1932 Prussian coup d'état. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 19 November 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Without objection. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:26, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Preußenschlag → 1932 Prussian coup d'état – A search on Google Scholar (filtering for English language results) finds for the current title there are just over 100 results and of these, about 1/3 are actually German language text. Searching for 1932 Prussia coup gets significantly more results and reveals that the majority of sources refer to this event descriptively, for example: "the infamous coup that toppled from power the last democratically-elected Prussian government", "Chancellor Franz von Papen’s coup d’etat against the incumbent Social Democratic government of Prussia", "the Reich coup against Prussia in July 1932", "1932 coup in Prussia", "Papen's Prussian coup of July 20, 1932", etc. I don't think the current title is very recognizable to English speakers and it isn't used in the majority of English language sources, so I propose renaming this to 1932 Prussian coup d'état in line with the titles of the majority of other coup articles where there is no common name. (t · c) buidhe 06:44, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Info box[edit]

@Gmrchist

I some questions / concerns about the info box:

- Part of Hitler's rise to power – Does the Prussian coup qualify, since it helped him only accidentally? No Nazis were involved, and the coup isn’t mentioned in the linked article.

- Location should be Free State of Prussia (like the flag)

- The 1932 Prussian election was a pretext more than a cause. The cause was Papen & the whole messy state of German politics. If the election hadn't led to the deadlock, Papen would almost certainly have found some other excuse. Although that said, I don’t know what I'd suggest instead of the election as the cause.

- Establishment of a New State. I would say something like 'eventual restoration of the Hohenzollern monarchy' as clearer.

- What's the source for saying it led to the suppression of the SPD (not SDP)? Like most other Weimar parties, the SPD lasted until the Enabling Act of 1933. Also what's the source for it restricting human rights? Political for sure, but I don’t offhand know of anything that I would put under human rights.

Thanks, GHStPaulMN (talk) 01:51, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GHStPaulMN: Hey, sorry for the late response, I must have missed this. Apologies for introducing inaccuracies and thanks for making these corrections to the infobox, I'm in agreement on all of the changes you've made. -- Grnrchst (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]