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Delayed Neuropathy Citation

The passage which mentions delayed Neuropathy is directly viewable on the CDC website. On our page here, it says that citation is needed. Is the citation offered by the government inadequate? Link to the cited source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15578861 115.189.102.195 (talk) 05:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And CDC page: https://www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/2,4,5-TrichlorophenoxyaceticAcid_BiomonitoringSummary.html 115.189.102.195 (talk) 05:48, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited quote in lede

A search for the quote added to the lede in this commit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2986016&diff=500128256&oldid=489545168

yields this: http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9905a/copyright/thaiorange.html

Not sure of relevance to lede. – monolemma t – 15:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Life

For comparison purposes, it would be useful to know 2,4,5-T's lifetime in soil and water. This seems to be given for other herbicides and pesticides, but not here. Gah4 (talk) 01:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Advantages Over 2,4-D?

What are the advantages of 2,4,5-T over 2,4-D? Are there certain weeds that 2,4,5-T is more effective against, is the mixture of the two more powerful than 2,4-D by itself, or does it have characteristics that make it superior in certain situations (if so, what are those characteristics)? It would be good if the article could include this information. 2607:FEA8:E31F:FBC1:858D:EF3F:D470:8B5 (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was also curious about this. Yes it is a difference in selectivity.

1954 "More Grass from Controlling Trees and Brush with Chemicals":

"2,4-D gives good control of most weeds but is not very effective on most types of woody growth"

1982 "Woody plant control":

"The phenoxy herbicides include 2,4-D; 2,4,5-T; and silvex (2,4,5-TP). Although these compounds are closely related, they vary considerably in effectiveness for controlling woody plants. For example, osage orange (Madura pomifera) is resistant to 2,4-D but susceptible to 2,4,5-T."

Also includes a chart showing susceptibilities, which vary wildly between species and chemical.

CAST. (1975). The Phenoxy Herbicides. Weed Science, 23(3), 253–263. http://www.jstor.org/stable/4042283 :

"2,4-D is by far the predominant compound. It is without equal in cost and effectiveness for routine control of most broad-leaved weeds in the presence of grasses. Other phenoxys find use only where they control weeds resistant to 2,4-D or where crops are less sensitive to them than to 2,4-D"

" 2,4,5-T and silvex are often used in rice in the southern states, where curly indigo and other weeds resistant to 2,4-D and MCPA are widespread."

"Slightly less than 1 million pounds of 2,4,5-T was applied to 1.1 million acres of land, much of it for control of mesquite, a task for which this chemical is uniquely adapted"

1972 EPA Label for Trinoxol:

"Trinoxol is recommended for controlling resistant species such as oak, maple, and persimmon"

Can be added to article I think. Cheers--Nanite (talk) 20:09, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]