Talk:2007 Gibraltar general election

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. JPG-GR (talk) 03:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its not a Gibraltarian election its a Gibraltar election.

--Gibnews (talk) 22:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change request[edit]

Gibraltar is used as both a noun and an adjective, for instance:

The Gibraltar telephone directory (2007) has three pages of double columns of entities starting at The Gibraltar Amateur Drama Association and ending with The Gibraltar Yacht registry there are NO entries for anything prefixed with Gibraltarian whatsoever.

The term Gibraltarian has a specific meaning relating to the people and not the institutions of Gibraltar.

General elections are described locally and in published media as such

see: Article about elections in a local daily newspaper

Where the phrase used is 'Gibraltar general election'.

User:Number 57 has changed these on the basis that: Gibraltarian is a legitimate adjective to refer to things related to Gibraltar, not just the people - see [1].

This is an online dictionary compiled by its users, and it cites 'The Gibraltarian Customs' as an example - there is no such entity. His error has been pointed out to him on his discussion page by three Gibraltarian editors who all concur.

The use of the word Gibraltarian is missleading as it would imply that participation in the elections was restricted to Gibraltarians, that is not the case and any registered British Citizen can vote.

Because the other entry exists, I cannot simply move the page and request that someone who can does so promptly.

--Gibnews (talk) 08:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Despite claims to the contrary, Gibraltarian is widely used as a demonym to describe things related to Gibraltar, and is defined as such by several dictionaries (e.g. Babylon). A quick google search of the term clearly shows that its use it not limited to the people [2] - five of the first ten hits refer to things other than the population. пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Just because the term Gibraltarian is used elsewhere as an adjective does not mean it is used correctly and is merely a common misconception. --Gibmetal 77talk 20:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Gibraltarian is NEVER used in that context in Gibraltar. The correct term, as used by the Government of Gibraltar on their official notices is Gibraltar as shown in the examples of the websites of official bodies. Using Google you can get 2,870 hits for gibraltan which is never used here at all. --Gibnews (talk) 21:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal is obvious; all moved.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move[edit]

I suggested these articles be moved at the RM for the 2006 referendum but it was not acted upon, so I'm setting up an independent RM.

For consistency with the referendum articles (for which the "Gibraltar" name achieved consensus at that RM), I request the following moves:

"Gibraltar" appears to be the preferred form for things like the Gibraltar pound, where one would not say (for example) the "Italy lira"; and the Gibraltar parliament where the "Spain parliament" would not make sense. There was google evidence cited in the previous RM which ended with consensus (though there's more such evidence with referendums than with elections), and this move would be exactly analogous. Pfainuk talk 16:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Per my esteemed colleagues nom. Narson (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – evidence from Google News and Google Books, while more scant, still shows this to be the commonest alternative. [3][4][5][6] Jayen466 17:30, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – The election is for the territory not a specific group of its people. --Gibnews (talk) 17:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Per nomination and reasons given above. --Gibmetal 77talk 17:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Supprt – In instances such as these, "Gibraltar" is used as an attributive noun and is grammatically correct. It is normally the preferred option when referring to things not related to the people of Gibraltar and is used very much in the same way as one would use "England" in "England national rugby union team". Also, note how major institutions like the "Gibraltar Heritage Trust" and the "Gibraltar Museum" use "Gibraltar" rather than "Gibraltarian". RedCoat10 (talk) 18:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Disagree with my old chum Gibnews' reasoning - in this context "Gibraltarian" is an adjective not a noun ("1. gibraltarian adjective of or relating to Gibraltar or its inhabitants; "Gibraltarian customs office"), and is therefore grammatically OK - but convention should dictate what WP uses and since convention is Gibraltar general election, I support. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 22:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, per nom. Xn4 (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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