Talk:2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak
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14 deaths
[edit]14 deaths.
- That is the current total, but that could easily rise as they are still going through rubble. CrazyC83 20:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- True, I heard on CNN that "thousands" of homes were either destroyed or demaged.
- 19 dead now. It will probably go higher still. CrazyC83 21:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- How much higher? Over a hundred?
- 20 Confirmed Dead Now
Single tornado or outbreak?
[edit]I am somewhat confused, as some sources (i.e. the NWS Melbourne map) suggest that it was one tornado all the way along (or perhaps a derecho) but other sources (i.e. SPC) suggest multiple tornadoes indeed touched down. Should this be treated as an outbreak, a mini-outbreak anchored by one bad tornado, or a single tornado? CrazyC83 21:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Naming
[edit]I think the title could be shortened; if no other outbreaks happened, then 2007 Groundhog Day tornado might be enough... – Chacor 02:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Aye, indeed. —Nightstallion (?) 11:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- In almost every article, "Tornado" and "Tornado Outbreak" is indeed capitalized as they are part of the event name. As for the 2007 Groundhog Day Tornado (or Tornado Outbreak, depending on how everything is confirmed) idea, I like that one actually. Might be worth a move. CrazyC83 15:47, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Tampa National Weather Service site refers it as the Sumter County Tornado, so 2007 Sumter County, Florida Tornado might be more official. Here's the link for the NWS report, but it might not last long. The link provides some damage pics and other stats that would be very useful to the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Except all 20 deaths, and the most serious damage, was in Lake County (under NWS Melbourne jurisdiction). CrazyC83 17:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Nevermind, at the time I didn't know there was more than one tornado. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I also remember seeing news reports about this storm threatening Hernando County. There were actually news reports of funnell clouds being spotted in places like Istachatta, Lake Lindsey and even south of Brooksville. Either way, 2007 Groundhog Day tornado could still serve as a redirect to this article. ----DanTD (talk) 23:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind, at the time I didn't know there was more than one tornado. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Except all 20 deaths, and the most serious damage, was in Lake County (under NWS Melbourne jurisdiction). CrazyC83 17:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Tampa National Weather Service site refers it as the Sumter County Tornado, so 2007 Sumter County, Florida Tornado might be more official. Here's the link for the NWS report, but it might not last long. The link provides some damage pics and other stats that would be very useful to the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- In almost every article, "Tornado" and "Tornado Outbreak" is indeed capitalized as they are part of the event name. As for the 2007 Groundhog Day Tornado (or Tornado Outbreak, depending on how everything is confirmed) idea, I like that one actually. Might be worth a move. CrazyC83 15:47, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- A couple of minor tweaks to the sentence structure, grammar, and punctuation, but nothing major. The prose is clearly written and easy to understand.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- All major information is backed up be reliable sources. Most information is from the NWS and National Climactic Data Service, but other sources are used as well.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- The article covers the key aspects of this event, including a synopsis of the storms themselves, their impact, and the aftermath.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- There are no major WP:NPOV issues.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- Most of the recent editing was done by two users; there's no active edit wars going on. Sufficient time has elapsed since the event so that the article can be written without rapidly changing information.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- All images used have appropriate captions and tags. The two images under impact and aftermath do have tags stating that, "The categories of this image should be checked." So this should be addressed at some point. But this is not critical for GA.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Overall, the article meets the GA criteria, and can be listed. Nice work! Dr. Cash (talk) 14:18, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
Alt text review
[edit]I was asked to look at the alt text. The first image (the map) has alt text "A map displaying the path of the three tornadoes." which doesn't really give the gist of the map. It's obvious to the sighted reader where the tornadoes went, and this info should be given to the visually impaired reader too. The second map has two misspellings "Floridan" (should be "Florida"?) and "peninnsula", and wastes too much time talking about colors (which are irrelevant details) and doesn't give important points such as where was the line of thunderstorms? and where were they the most severe? Please see WP:ALT#Maps for more advice. For the 3rd image "one side's worth" is phrased oddly; how about something like "the houses on one side" and "the houses on the other side"? The 4th image looks good. Thanks for working on the alt text, by the way. Eubulides (talk) 19:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Dead link
[edit]During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
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- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-06-15 14:11:08, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 14:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Dead link 2
[edit]During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
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- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-26 02:48:12, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-27 15:05:21, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-06-15 14:11:18, 404 Not Found
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Dead link 3
[edit]During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
- http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/surveys/020207/products/svs/svs_020336.txt
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-26 02:48:12, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-27 15:05:21, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-06-15 14:11:29, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 14:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Dead link 4
[edit]During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
- http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/surveys/020207/products/tor/tor_020352.txt
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-26 02:48:12, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-27 15:05:21, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-06-15 14:11:39, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 14:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Dead link 5
[edit]During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!
- http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/surveys/020207/products/tor/tor_020413.txt
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-26 02:48:12, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-05-27 15:05:21, 404 Not Found
- In 2007 Groundhog Day tornado outbreak on 2011-06-15 14:11:47, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 14:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
4th tornado and was this an outbreak?
[edit]The NCDC lists a 4th tornado in Florida on this date rated EF0. I think this should be added to the article. On another note, does this qualify as an outbreak? I was under the impression that for an event to be considered a tornado outbreak it must produce a minimum of six tornadoes. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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GA Reassessment
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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- Result: I'm not sure about the need for a "non-tornadic impact section" (see the note in 3a of the GA criteria). As no work has been done for three weeks, closing with no consensus to delist. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
This is an older outbreak article with several dead links and no non-tornadic impact section. A review is necessary. ChessEric 06:56, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- @ChessEric: The article appears properly cited and 3 dead links, while not ideal, aren't a major issue that would merit a delist on their own in my opinion. Which of the GA criteria do you believe this article fails to meet? Broadness? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:28, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- To be honest, I wanted to make sure this article would still meet GA standards. The NWS changed all their links in the mid-2010s and that has left a lot of tornado articles with dead links, so I was just making sure it wasn't a problem. The only thing I think this article needs is a section dedicated to non-tornadic impacts from the storm system. I know this article is about the tornadic supercell that caused the disaster, but I thought that the article could use some more information about what else happened. ChessEric 19:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, could you leave a notification at WT:WEATHER? Hopefully we can get some input from editors there. Weather is not an area of expertise for me and I'm not familiar with the general standards for weather event articles. I'd imagine someone would know how to resolve those dead links. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh ok um...how do I do that? ChessEric 20:59, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- You can use {{subst:GARMessage|ArticleName|page=n}} to do so, filling in the article name and the number of the reassessment page (1, in this instance). I added this directly to the GAR instructions template at the top of the GAR page as I realized it was missing. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:55, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh ok um...how do I do that? ChessEric 20:59, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, could you leave a notification at WT:WEATHER? Hopefully we can get some input from editors there. Weather is not an area of expertise for me and I'm not familiar with the general standards for weather event articles. I'd imagine someone would know how to resolve those dead links. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- To be honest, I wanted to make sure this article would still meet GA standards. The NWS changed all their links in the mid-2010s and that has left a lot of tornado articles with dead links, so I was just making sure it wasn't a problem. The only thing I think this article needs is a section dedicated to non-tornadic impacts from the storm system. I know this article is about the tornadic supercell that caused the disaster, but I thought that the article could use some more information about what else happened. ChessEric 19:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Dead links repaired. @ChessEric: For reference, any storm event that uses the same source can be pulled from the newer NCDC Storm Events Database. Chlod (say hi!) 21:04, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh I know that. Thanks! ChessEric 21:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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