Talk:2007 Peru earthquake

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Notes[edit]

Why has this been unredirected? The other article has more information, a name that is uniform with the Manual of Style. T Rex | talk 02:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The other article is highly incorrect, factually. The factual problems lead to an incorrect title. There has been one major earthquake. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cut the sabotage![edit]

Please, stop sabotaging this page, it is highly annoying for the people to undo them every time someone deletes the page or something. And big KUDOS to those who undo'd it.

Front Page[edit]

Should be put on the front page as it looks to be a big event, could even develop into something even bigger if a tsunami occurs.

Well... a tsunami is probably not going to happen. But yes, this should probably make it to the Main Page if we can get this article developed a bit more. -- tariqabjotu 02:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How much bigger should the article be for it to be mentioned on the main page? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​talk•contribs 02:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

language[edit]

I'm trying to have a link thespanish article. I don't see the language in the left hand side?

--alfiboy 02:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

48 Dead 350 Injured[edit]

Who is changing my posts?

Im peruvian... And I did post the references. www.elcomercioperu.com. Thats the most important newspaper un peru.

Dont change it!

The link you provided was in Spanish, I can't verify it what it says, I don't speak Spanish. Can you provide link to an English version (then I wouldn't have a problem with it)? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​talk•contribs 04:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Its title: "Death toll rises to 48, 350 injured due to 7.9-magnitude quake". Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 04:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And it keeps increasing. Now the number of deaths is about 115 and 1300 injured. Alexander 10:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Since things will be changing rapidly, we should probably say "with reports of up to 48 dead". GhostPirate 04:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It speaks pretty loudly. 48 muertos (dead), 350 heridos (injured)... enought to sustent my update.

You can use the google translator also, to get more information.

Still doesn't feel right. Won't touch it for now. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​talk•contribs 04:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Added a language parameter to that ref stating its in Spanish. I'm satisfied. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​talk•contribs 04:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

6.3[edit]

Is this 6.3 earthquake http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2007gcb7.php an aftershock or no? T Rex | talk 06:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Probably is and it happened really close to Ica (city), Peru, a town of 200,000 residents!

"dramatic"[edit]

Check out this link and read it, very important, as it gives more insight as to what is happening on the ground. [1]

Merge[edit]

Merge this article with the Peru article. 65.173.104.223 07:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean merge it with the Peru article? That's like saying merge the 9/11 attacks article with the United States article. This is a big event and it needs its own article.

Rename August 2007 Peru earthquake pending 2008[edit]

Calling this the 2007 Peru earthquake is actually betting there won't be any more. If there are no more, then of course the page could be moved back. Anynobody 08:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC) (I do realize August isn't over either, but a month is more specific without being overly specific) Anynobody 08:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There probably won't be another, but I understand your concern, how bout, 2007 Ica City earthquake, since it is the hardest hit city.

When it happens, then we can consider the issue. For now, it seems senseless to speculate. El_C 08:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

El_C is speculating there won't be another one this year, which I agree is as senseless as claiming to know the future can be. I agree with the unsigned post that there probably won't be, but if we get in the habit of naming such events as the "<year> <place> <whatever>" we're setting ourselves up to look stupid if another <whatever> happens in the same <place> that <year>.

2007 Ica City earthquake is a fair counter proposal, but I was hoping to move away from the just the yearly label only. Unless we name articles very specifically (August 15 2007 Peru Earthquake) there is going to be an element of speculation. (I'm not advocating the August 15... name, that seems overly specific.) I understand that there are around 15 days left in the month so calling the article August 2007 Peru earthquake (though on a grammatical level shouldn't it be Peruvian?) is predicting that there won't be another quake for the rest of this month, but it's a big difference between that and the next three and a half months. Anynobody 09:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming would be a good plan, but for now, I say that we stick with the current title unless if another earthquake strikes, then we should rename it. Although it is very unlikely for there to be two earthquakes, there is still a slight possibility, so keep this as an open thought. --RandehMann 02:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait til there's another quake this year, then rename. Period. --Golbez 06:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Preceeded by smaller quake?[edit]

According to a person being interviewed by BBC News 24, a smaller magnitude 5.3 earthquake hit the region around Lima about 3 weeks ago. It wasn't reported much in the North American or European media except for a small mention in the New York Post. Can anyone confirm this or provide a link to a source? 87.113.72.158 10:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. USGS source here. Josh 20:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hypocentre[edit]

Wikipedia currently says the hypocentre is 47km, while Wikinews says 31km. Which is correct? NerdyNSK 10:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Death Toll[edit]

According to the AP via Yahoo! News as of 6:48 CST, the death toll is up to 337 :( Here is the link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070816/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/peru_quake

I think we should update this number.

Sky News is now reporting at least 500 dead. No proper confirmation of that figure though as of yet. RapidR 18:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why church?[edit]

How do we know for sure they all went to church when the earhquake came, seeking refuge. Couldn't they already be there because it was on the Assumption of Mary day for the catholics? J 1982 15:08, 16 August 2007 (CEST)

Tsunami[edit]

What on earth is a 10 inch tsunami? It barely classifies as a wave - I don't think that really makes much sense, unless I'm missing some basic geography here. Kilbosh 15:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The place where the 10 inch wave happened does not get high waves at all. This wave was big enough to go over the beach and flood a nearby road, covering it with debris. Lizzyp4 15:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)Lizzyp4[reply]

The most affected houses were those made out of adobe and quincha. There are still replicas being felt, particularly in Ica. We just felt one in Lima at 10:08 (GMT -5). Some replicas have even reached 5 degrees in the Richter scale.

Historical buildings have suffered some minor damage. The Ministry of Work building has a huge crack in the middle. President García has suspended classes in every school nationwide.

"Earthquake Lights"[edit]

Some people have reported this event happening during the earthquake. It's not verifiable but there is a video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNy6YQB8nnw which supposedly has footage of the lights. They're visible somewhere around the 48 second mark. --Zeph1 16 August 2007 (UTC)

How interesting that someone mentions this.

From http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/6949537.stm

According to Bronwyn Davis: "What was even more frightening was the roar of the quake coupled with the sky lighting up."

I myself live in Lima, and remember the earthquake clearly. I was in the Surco district, at the time, but I don't remember any lights. Then again, I wasn't looking at the sky.

--kenohki 18:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did saw lights. But they were more like lightning in the horizon. I was on the street already (I live in Salamanca, in Ate - Lima) and during the earthquake, all lights turned off and blue and red lights appeared in the sky. My grandma saw them too, she was next to me. --Shadowy Crafter 19:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just like Kenohki I live in Surco and I didn't see any lights but everybody else around me said they did. In some TV footage you can see it too.

The official report about this Lights said that this lights has happend by the explosion of electric connections of high voltage.

I was in San Miguel District, Lima and I saw the lightning, but can't remember a proper sound, though.--Andersmusician VOTE 03:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Measurements (metric and Imperial)[edit]

In giving measurements in both metric and Imperial units, this article sometimes has the metric measurement first (followed by the Imperial measurement in parentheses), and sometimes the Imperial measurement first (followed by the metric measurement in parentheses). Does Wikipedia have a policy or guideline for consistency in this regard? -- Wavelength 18:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The metric system is used in Peru so the metric should be first with the Imperial units in parentheses. See WP:UNITS for more info. T Rex | talk 00:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. -- Wavelength 04:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Charity Links[edit]

Someone recently added a link to Charity Navigator which is an organization which evaluates U.S. based charities. While that does seem like a good source the adding of charity links reminds me of the situation that happened at the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake article when that event was happening that some people began adding links to fraudulent charities to try and profit off of that tragedy. So I am just posting this as a reminder to people editing this article that if you see any external links to charitable organizations which seem suspicious immediately remove it from the article and bring it up here. Thank you.--Jersey Devil 23:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just revereted a couple of dubious links. --Pleasantville 19:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

Is there anybody from Peru that could go to Ica and take some pictures there, we have nothing yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.230.93.230 (talk) 23:27:58, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

a bit from the US DoD: http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=9455 --83.131.192.197 15:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Latest photo from US DoD:--TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo is pretty good. Wouldn't mind it on the article. Though we should be careful with DoD photos because their purpose is usually to emphasize the U.S. response rather then photos purely to show the devastation of the earthquake. But then again public domain photos are hard to come by.--Jersey Devil 20:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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