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Radio Huelga[edit]

The section about Radio Huelga is pretty extensive. Maybe it would be better to split Radio Huelga to its own article? What do you all think about that? Cavenaghi9 (talk) 03:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple issues[edit]

This article is a mess. Anyone else care to collaborate on this? Madgirl 15 (talk) 10:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC) 70.45.145.102 (talk) 18:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)I don't think this article is very neutral. It also lacks verifiability.[reply]

We, profesor Angel Arzan from the college of General Studies and the two sections of intermidiate English, are willing and able to collaborate with you. We have already done some research and I am willing to do copy editing.--English 3123 UPRRP (talk) 16:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is great! We need to encourage even more people to join the effort. Mpcoder (talk) 05:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plural[edit]

The title of this article should state "strikes", as there have been two, the original strike that affected the second semester of the 2009-10 academic year and the less widespread current strike that has affected the first semester of the 2010-11 academic year. Pr4ever (talk) 11:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The article needs lots of work.Madgirl 15 (talk) 11:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I noticed the edits you made. They're very good. Some though I think sound a little biased. Do you have the sources so that we can start adding them?Madgirl 15 (talk) 11:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of sources that can be used to improve article:[edit]

April 21st, 2010 http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9F7K8300.htm
April 28th, 2010 http://www.prdailysun.com/news/UPR-wont-seek-formula-adjustment-still-seeking-alternatives
May 20th, 2010 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/us/21students.html?_r=1
May 23rd, 2010 http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/23/v-fullstory/1644735/student-strike-in-puerto-rico.html
June 9th, 2010 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06/09/2010-06-09_ugly_showdown_seems_probable_in_puerto_rico.html
June 17th, 2010 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/us/18students.html
June 22nd, 2010 http://www.prdailysun.com/news/Its-a-wrap-Students-ratify-strike-ending-pact

June 21st, 2010 http://www.caribbeanbusinesspr.com/news03.php?nt_id=44526&ct_id=1

I should note that one or two articles say that all 11 campuses were on strike. It was actually only 10, although I believe there was a one-day strike on Ciencias Médicas (the 11th campus that didn't close down). Madgirl 15 (talk) 12:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About neutral point of view[edit]

As I mentioned above the edits by the collaborator, Pr4ever, are a little biased. Since they need verification, I cannot even verify if they're true at all. I am going to try verify this myself, but the collaborator or anyone else has an input about this, then please add them or discuss it here. The article as a whole, as I found it before making the recent edits and the parts that haven't been edited and/or have no citations, is also biased. It gives undue weight to the student's perspective and shows almost no version of the opposition, for example the administration's arguments against the strike. Also, the tone in which most of the sections are written are not impartial. Madgirl 15 (talk) 15:32, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the history section needs to add the history of UPR strikes and other issues regarding the patterns of strikes since late 1960s. For example, the rage happenings at the 1970 graduation exercise. It was the last graduation at the UPR Theater. Many outsiders and nongraduating students were dressed like graduating students. The graduation hostile environment culminated when a student hit the Chancellor on his face. Students and others were yelling and using derrogatory language. It was an inhumane event. It is sad that 30 years after no laws, regulations or administrative plans have been developed to address the same issues which culminated in the professors not teaching and students not attending classes. The UPR is a center for education and peace. The students and professors have values and civility to commit themselves to their responsibilities to the house of education. Outside politics have been one of the causes in university brawls. What is wrong needs to be fixed for now and forever.

If the university is not accredited, it will affect any person who graduated from such institution. Their degree will become questionable. Hopefully it is a nightmare dream. 99.121.80.249 (talk) 05:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do not mind admitting publicly that I believe in many of the issues and reasons that led to the student strike. Nevertheless I am also concerned about the neutrality of this article and I commit myself to the policies of no original research, neutral point of view, and verifiability. I have no problem including the University's point of view and as a English teacher I also commit myself to editing and revising this article into grammatically correct English.English 3123 UPRRP (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"“but some students leaders hail the assault against Dr. Guadalupe, saying "she provoked these attacks with her intransigent politics".[22][23] Others have equated such statements with those of rapists who allege that their victims brought those attacks on themselves.” Please be advised that I deleted the previous statements because after reading the sources given in the article the statements are not direct quotes or are they remarks attributed to any particular individual or organization.English 3123 UPRRP (talk) 20:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mastery of English[edit]

Some sections of this article were clearly written by someone who is not proficient in English. The information is there (although it needs citations), but the sections need to be rewritten.

Mpcoder (talk) 15:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Supposed surgical intervention of Guadalupe[edit]

On endi.com, the news report stated that Guadalupe was not intervened surgically - she just received general medical attention.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/llevanalarectoraalhospitalindustrial-908803.html

Mpcoder (talk) 02:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your constructive edits. I stand corrected. Pr4ever (talk) 08:07, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of local support[edit]

After all that has been said and done, the highly-respected El Nuevo Día poll reflects that 60% of those polled oppose student striking at UPR and an even larger majority, 65%, support the actions that the state police have taken to restore order. Few issues in Puerto Rico public opinion have coalesced majorities as large as these, leading reasonable observers to conclude that the UPR strike lacks local support.

My edits in the article regarding this matter, whicxh are properly sourced, should be discussed before determining whether they should be altrered. Pr4ever (talk) 21:43, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]