Talk:2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks

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keep, 8 January 2013 (UTC), see discussion.
Keep, 5 January 2012 (UTC), see discussion.
Speedy close, 3 January 2012 (UTC), see discussion.

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A fact from 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 January 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the series of arson fires that began on December 29, 2011, was the worst set of arson events in Los Angeles since the 1992 riots?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2012/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks.

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I was bold and archived the whole conundrum. To see discussions of the duplicate article, copy-pasting, notability, and sockpuppet case among others, see here. BCS (Talk) 01:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTNEWSPAPER & WP:EVENT[edit]

It is still not clear that this article meets the above policy, it needs to have sources written after the event attesting to its enduring historical significance. Mt king ^(edits) 06:28, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coming up to one month after this all started, the only sources are in the period of the attacks and the arrest, I have been unable to find any sources outside this period so I propose reinserting the {{notability|event}} tag to see if others can. Mt king ^(edits) 07:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest putting the tag on the article for 1 month (or something like that). After that period, either remove the tag or renominate it at WP:AFD. Magister Scienta ^talk 14:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DoneMt king ^(edits) 01:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's been two AfDs on this and the decision was to "keep". Please show some respect for this decision into which you've already provided your input (repeatedly) by waiting until next year before renominating this. The fact the Wikipedia Main Page editors decided to link to this story should say something about their view. You aren't likely to find sources when you don't want to find them. I took a very cursory look myself today and found a new Associated Press story from this week.--Brian Dell (talk) 19:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No the two news refs are not about the attacks but about the mother of the accused, not about the arson attacks, reverting the removal of the tag, WP:NOTNEWSPAPER is a policy and this does not show it meets that policy. Mt king ^(edits) 21:32, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is reportedly the extradition of the mother that caused the attacks, by means of igniting the arsonist's hatred for "America" or the system or whatever his issue is. There has already been an AfD decision and it should be respected.--Brian Dell (talk) 01:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So how does an article about someone not actually involved in this crime (ie not the accused or the victim) demonstrate that this crime is notable ? Mt king ^(edits) 01:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, why would anyone want to delete this entry? I have a relative who lost their vehicle. 90% of Californians will tell you it was a very notable event. There will be a trial which will ensure more publicity. I just went thru the history of this article and find it very peculiar that the same person keeps wanting to delete it, in spite of multiple votes. What's the problem here? Uscband900 (talk) 23:21, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Final Score...[edit]

...What was it? -did he get his 341 years?! Basket _Feudalist 08:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dorothee Burkhart, German court, 2013[edit]

After extradition, Dorothee Burkhart in German court for fraud http://www.bild.de/news/inland/betrug/feuerteufel-mama-vor-gericht-30511116.bild.html and http://www.bild.de/regional/frankfurt/betrug/mutter-von-hollywood-feuerteufel-rastet-vor-gericht-aus-30522416.bild.html and http://www.kreisblatt.de/lokales/main-taunus-kreis/Brandstifter-wollte-seine-Mutter-raechen;art676,433223 Strangely, no more reports in the news about the outcome nor a sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4904:DF71:910:B97:823F:1829 (talk) 11:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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