Talk:2011 World Football Challenge

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Flags and overlinks[edit]

The WP:MOSFLAG guideline clearly states, "Flag icons may be relevant in some subject areas, where the subject actually represents that country, government, or nationality – such as military units, government officials, or national sports teams." In this case, the teams do not represent the nations and so the flags should not be included.

The WP:OVERLINK manual of style clearly states, "Avoid linking the names of major geographic features and locations, languages, religions, and common professions". This would include nations, particularly when the cities are linked immediately beside them.

I see no good grounds for including the flags or linking the nations. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:10, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think no reason for deletion of flags. NickSt (talk) 12:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just explained it above. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote: "the teams do not represent the nations". Why??? Each team represents their country in any tournaments including unofficial. No teams without country. Otherwise we must delete all flags from all friendly tournaments? NickSt (talk) 12:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They did not win any competition to represent their nations. They were selected because they are popular teams. This is clear with the inclusion of Sporting CP, Guadalajara, Philadelphia Union, and Juventus. The Whitecaps played in a four-team tournament and were a new entry to the MLS that year, which is why they were included. Some of the remaining teams are second-place finishers. I can't support it with a RS, but as a supported of the Whitecaps, there were a great many questions as to why they were included and other teams were not, and why they only played one match while LA played two, and the majority of European teams played three. In short, the flags would simply indicate that the teams "weren't from around here" and would also go against WP:OVERLINK and accessibility guidelines. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:12, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No matter how clubs were chosen. Real Madrid is from Spain and this trophy is prestige for their country. NickSt (talk) 13:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/120723/world-football-challenge-when-glorified-friendlies-are-billed-major-trop-176984 http://www.lagconfidential.com/2011/7/18/2280670/galaxy-week-in-review-the-lost-diadem You still don't understand. The only year this was a real tournament was 2009. 2011 and 2012 were simply a series of exhibition matches. A pre-season warm-up for the European teams and a chance to make money for the MLS ones. Not sure at what point in the season Guadalajara was in at that point. European teams have been playing in North America since at least 2004 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/jul/26/newsstory.sport6 . The events were simply given a title in 2009. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See official standings of 2011 tournament [1] Here article, AS wrote Real Madrid is 2011 WFC champion [2] Rules of competition here [3] Cristiano Ronaldo is "Man of the TOURNAMENT" (2012), see photo: [4] NickSt (talk) 14:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2011 World Football Challenge Standings doesn't state tournament. It does state "Sporting Clube de Portugal only play one match and therefore will not accumulate points" which means the shouldn't even be listed if this is a real tournament, which as we know it isn't.

The Spanish article doesn't indicate it was a tournament, simply that RM had were the winners of something.

All competitions have rules. That doesn't make it tournament. The rules call it an "Event" more frequently than it's called a tournament.

Man of the tournament? Not supported. He simply scored the most goals in the collection of friendlies.

Conclusion: #FAIL --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, trophies and awards were presented at each match. I recall seeing them after the Whitecaps game. The photo you presented above could have been for a match or for the event's top scorer, but that trophy didn't look like the payer awards I saw. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:04, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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