Talk:2012 National League Wild Card Game

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Did you know... that the 2012 National League Wild Card Game was delayed for 19 minutes when fans threw debris on the field?

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Logo

We need to add in the logo for this series. It's seen on this promotional image here, but I can't find a picture with just the logo.

http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/5/7/8/39417578/cuts/interstitial_generic_wildcard_81f4nfof_u9u4moyu.jpg

--149.169.251.54 (talk) 17:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image

I think that the image I added to Infield fly rule would be good to illustrate this article, but I can't figure out how to fit it in. If anyone has a good idea, feel free. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Thank you, RefereeOrganist (talk) 20:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Name Change

All media about the 2012 Wild Card Game refers to it as such, not the "Wild Card Playoff". This can be seen on MLB's official website here. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp?y=12 ..... I propose that the main Wild Card game article be renamed to Wild Card Game, as other articles about the baseball postseason don't use MLB in the title, (Division Series, League Championship Series, World Series). I also think it would be wise to create separate articles about the NL and AL Wild Card Games, as the LDS and LCS have. This would follow suit with other Wikipedia articles, and would fall in line with the official media. --Rekameohs (talk) 10:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger with 2012 American League Wild Card Playoff

I think both Wild Card Playoff articles should be merged into one and renamed as Wild Card Game and 2012 Wild Card Game, as Rekameohs suggested. They even use the same logo.--NULLSPACE (Φ) 20:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Since the logo is the same and MLB continues to call both simply the "2012 Wild Card Game", I agree with this. Rekameohs (talk) 22:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - I strongly oppose this as this is one of the most important games of the year and garners massive media coverage. I think, at least for now, they have significant enough coverage to warrant their own articles, but we could definitely revisit this in a few months. WP:CCC--Go Phightins! (talk) 02:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as explained at Talk:2012 American League Wild Card Game#Proposed merger with 2012 National League Wild Card Playoff Perhaps this should have been set up such that all respond at the same place. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 23:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as there is no reason that I can see to merge. AutomaticStrikeout 01:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This game has proven far too significant and therefore merits its own article. RefereeOrganist (talk) 20:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support - Merge not only these but the DS and CS series into one play-off page, with only the WS separate. Not sure why MLB needs a page for each of the different rounds - A general playoffs page and the final separate is what most other things have (NFL, NHL, NBA, champions league, Europa league, several national cups such as the FA cup, and others). 188.221.79.22 (talk) 11:03, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Two distinct games, from two distinct leagues. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, as we've got seperate articles for both Leagues Division series & Championship series. GoodDay (talk) 07:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Then merge all those into a general playoff article like practically everything else as I suggested. Why do we need articles for each of the different rounds here? The only thing I can think of is simply the 'tradition' of "there was a time when there was no CS/DS" - however, there was also a time in the NFL when there were no WC games, and they don't get a separate page. I really don't see the need for all these things to have different articles. 188.221.79.22 (talk) 10:36, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal withdrawn. Thanks, everyone...--NULLSPACE (Φ) 12:45, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Easter Egg

When you see St. Louis Cardinals, wouldn't you expect the link to be [[St. Louis Cardinals]]? I certainly wouldn't expect it to take me to 2012 St. Louis Cardinals season. That is the definition of an easter egg link. If you want to link to the 2012 season, it needs to be explicitly mentioned that it's the 2012 Cardinals. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on the context. When you see St. Louis Cardinals on a 2012 postseason page, you'd prefer seeing what they did in 2012 season? or what they did from the very beginning? Are there consensus discussions about this? e.g.WP:Baseball--NULLSPACE (Φ) 23:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with NullSpace...usually in an article about a postseason event, I would rather see how they did during the season. The first link on their season page is their team page, so it'd require an extra click. That being said, if you link to the Cardinals team page, in the infobox there's a link to their current season. I could really go either way. Go Phightins! (talk) 14:35, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

History of post-game umpire calls against the Braves

The list of umpire calls against the Braves in post-season seems lacking in objectivity. It sounds much more like sour grapes on the part of Braves supporters.