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[edit]re [1], look, I have no doubt this is eventually going to be a full article, but for now it consists of a single line. That can very easily just be merged into elections in Libya. Why can't we create articles at a time when there is sufficient material for an article? As opposed to creating articles based on the expectation that there will one day be such material? I don't get it. --dab (𒁳) 08:20, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- As someone who regularly does this, let me try to explain: If it's certain that there will be material that should be at this place at a not-too-distant point in the future, creating the article right now makes it easier for people to add relevant information at the right place. I'm against merging. —Nightstallion 11:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- Nightstallion, I agree with every word you said. There's no need to write something more, you already said everything. I'm strongly against merging. --Sundostund (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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Turnout figure
[edit]The turnout figure of 630,000 seems to be incorrect. When I add up the figures at the Election Commission website, I get a total of 913,885. This figure consists of 567,150 "general" and 346,735 "woman." I'm not sure if these figures should be added together or not, but either way they don't produce 630,000. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 07:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- I believe "woman" votes are those cast for the reserved seats for women, and they are therefore duplicate votes and should not be counted towards turnout. I agree with your total calculation of 567,150. However, this is only for the 69 constituency seats - perhaps more votes were cast in the proportional representation part of the election for the remaining 80 seats?
- But anyway, the article is riddled with inconsistencies;
- the number of registered voters (1,509,128 registered voters according to the IPU and the HNEC) is not in line with the claim that "Barely a third of Libya's 3.4m eligible voters had registered" - it's about 44%.
- the 18% turnout figure is clearly wrong, as that would mean only 270,000 people had voted - the real figure appears to be 42% (if the 630,000 figure is correct) or 38% (if 567,150 is correct).
- Number 57 08:46, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. No wonder Libyan democracy is in trouble when they make their electoral system so absurdly complicated. Would you happen to know why Region 8 elects no List members and why Tripoli elects no constituency members? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't have a clue; when I wrote the electoral system section I was really struggling to see any logic behind it. I also noticed yesterday that the IPU (which I used as a reference) has since cut most of the information from their electoral system page on Libya, so perhaps even they can't work it out. Number 57 08:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- "Barely a third of Libya's 3.4m eligible voters had registered…" This refers to the Constitutional Assembly election, to give an indication that interest had waned before the Deputies election. AntiqueReader (talk) 14:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, good point. That sentence should probably be removed or moved to the background section, as its inclusion in the Conduct section is a bit misleading... Number 57 14:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. No wonder Libyan democracy is in trouble when they make their electoral system so absurdly complicated. Would you happen to know why Region 8 elects no List members and why Tripoli elects no constituency members? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Libya Herald figures
[edit]Apologies for posting 2012 instead of 2014 figures earlier. These are the correct final results as given by the Libya Herald, which is now back online. Since all candidates ran without party identification they're not very meaningful unless you have detailed knowledge. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 00:06, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
The final results are:
Constituency 1 Tobruk
No. 1 Tobruk
General List (No. of Candidates: 45 No. of Seats: 4)
Saleh Al-Tayeh (3,008) Nureddin Abdulhamid (1,879) Salhin Saad (1,611) Muftah Al-Sharri (1,389) No. 2 Guba
General List (No. of Candidates: 31 No. of Seats: 2)
Agila Gwaider (913) Talal Al-Maihub (623) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)
Muna Al-Ghaithi (2,559) No. 3 Derna
No vote
Constituency 2 – Beida
No. 4 Shahat
General List (No. of candidates: 22; No. of seats: 2)
Nasreddin Muftah (567) Muntasser Ali (560) No. 5 Beida
General List (No. of candidates: 46; No. of seats: 3)
Idris Adam (1,412) Adam Bu Sakhra (1,227) Abdulmutalib Hamed (968) No. 6 Marj
General List (No. of candidates: 33; No. of seats: 3)
Suleiman Awad (1,079) Abdulmonem Hassan (980) Faraj Hashem (962) Beida, Marj & Shahat
Women’s List (No. of candidates: 7; No. of seats: 1)
Sultana Abdulrahim (5,906) No. 7 Qasr Libya
General List (No. of candidates: 20; No. of seats)
Khalifa Al-Dagari (1,149) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 2; No. of seats: 1)
Rabha Al-Forjani (3,474)
Constituency 3 – Benghazi
No. 3 Benghazi
General List (No. of candidates: 113; No. of seats: 16)
Younis Fanoush (4,838) Ibrahim Ameish (4,599) Ali Abuzakuk (3,932) Tariq Al-Jarush (2,863) Abubakr Bahira (2,853) Adel Al-Tira (2,080) Ziyad Daghim (2,007) Muftah Akuidir (1,792) Ahmed Al-Wahdi (1,512) Aisa Al-Araibi (1,417) Jalal Al-Shweidi (1,307) Ramadan Shambesh (1,220) Essam Al-Jihani (1,073) Ibrahim Al-Dresi (1,072) Saad Al-Jazwi (1,057) Badr Musa (977) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 4)
Amal Bayu (14,086) Aisha Al-Tablaghi (8,003) Siham Sirghua ( 5,883) Asmahan Belaoun (5,452) No. 9 Tocra
General List (No. of candidates: 16; No. of seats: 2)
Said Isbaga (425) Yousif Hamid (418) No. 10 Al-Abiar
General List (No. of candidates: 14; No. of seats: 2)
Ali Khaled (1,308) Saad Al-Badri (1,209) No. 11 Gemenis
General List (No. of candidates: 11; No. of seats: 1)
Ibrahim Al-Zughied (589) No. 12 Solug
General List (No. of candidates: 13; No. of seats: 1)
Yousif Al-Fakhri (610) Constituency 4 – Ajdabiya
No. 13 Ajdabiya
General List (No. of candidates: 60; No. of seats: 3)
Fatallah Mohamed (844) Mustafa Mohamed (784) Mohamed Saleh (782) No. 14 Brega
General List (No. of candidates: 10; No. of seats: 1)
Idris Faraj (460) Ajdabiya (13) & Brega (14)
Women’s List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)
Fariha Al-Haderi (4,933) No. 15 Awjila
General List (No. of Candidates: 1 No. of Seats: 1)
Fathi Al-Gabasi (1,391) No. 16 Jalu
General List (No. of candidates: 7; No. of seats: 1)
Hamed Mageg (770) Awjila , Jalu & Jakharra (16)
Women’s List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)
Fatima Karees (1,445) No. 17 Tazerbu
General List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)
Mohamed Doma (532) No. 18 Kufra
No vote
Constituency 5 Sirte – Jufra
No. 19 Sidra
General List (No. of Candidates: 13 No. of Seats: 2)
Salah Fhaima (514) Aamr Abubakr (485) No. 20 Sirte
General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 3)
Zaid Abubakr (1,093) Hassan Zarga (875) Abubakr Mohammed (723) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)
Azziza Busetta (2,300) No. 21 Jufra
General List (No. of Candidates: 19 No. of Seats: 2)
Ismail Ismail (704) Muad Masaoud (612) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)
Midallah Gandeh (1,966) Constituency 6 - Sebha
No. 22 Sebha
General List (No. of candidates: 61; No. of seats: 7)
Ibrahim Ali (1,319 votes) Misbah Awhida (1,189) Ahmed Arhuma (912) Mohamed Arifa (898) Mohamed Ajdeed (782) Mohamed Al-Hadiri (713) Yousef Saidi (713) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 10; No. of seats: 2)
Fatima Abu Saada (2,642) Ahlam Khalifa (2,326) No. 23 Wadi Shatti
General List (No. of candidates: 81; No. of seats: 6)
Ali Al-Qaedi (864) Abdullah Lahanish (839) Al-Hadi Al-Saghir (809) Busalah Shalabi (797) Muftah Al-Kiratihi (705) Rajab Ammar (614) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 11; No. of seats: 1)
Khadija Al-Zaroug (2,503) Constituency 7 Obari – Murzuk
No. 24 Obari
General List (No. of candidates: 54; No. of seats: 5)
Abdul Hafith Al-Sarir (760) Abdul Qader Suleiman (660) Abdul Salem Ali (641) Hassan Saleh (641) Ibrahim Ahmed (629) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 10; No. of seats: 1)
Fatima Al-Swayai (1,655) No. 25 Ghat
General List (No. of candidates: 17; No. of seats: 2)
Nasr Al-Ghariani (524) Saleh Bikdah (380) No. 26 Wadi Otba
General List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 1)
Mohamed Amumin (611) No. 27 Murzuk
General List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)
Mohamed Leynu (3,060) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 7; No. of seats: 1)
Rahma Adam (2,889) No. 28 Traghen
General List (No. of candidates: 5; No. of seats: 1)
Mohamed Tamer (331) No. 29 Um Al-Aranib
General List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)
Almahdi Alawar (246) No. 30 Timsa, Majdul, Um Zuwir
General List (No. of candidates: 8; No. of seats: 1)
Ahmaid Huma (464) No. 31 Qatrun
General List (No. of candidates: 5; No. of seats: 1)
Saleh Darkuwi (1,318) Constituency 8 - Gharian
No. 32 Gharian
General List (No. of Candidates: 31 No. of Seats: 3)
Sulaiman Al-Harari (1,275) Salah Zubaik (876) Naim Abdurrahman (738) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 1 No. of Seats: 1
Alsaida Al-Yacoubi (6,577) No. 33 Al-Asabaa
General List (No. of Candidates: 6 No. of Seats: 1)
Abdul Wahab Zuliya (1,309) No. 34 Kikla and Al-Qala
General List (No. of Candidates: 1 No. of Seats: 1)
Akram Khalifa (481) No 35 Yefren
General List (No. of candidates: 11; No. of seats: 1)
Tarek Buhisa (2,717) No. 36 Reyayna
General List (No. of Candidates: 10 No. of Seats: 1)
Omar Al-Arbi (232) No. 37 Rahibat
General List (No. of Candidates: 8 No. of Seats: 1)
Mohamed Nigru (553) No. 38 Rajban
General List (No. of Candidates: 6 No. of Seats: 1)
Salah Bilhoug (416) No. 39 Jadu
No candidates standing
No. 40 Zintan
General List (No. of Candidates: 7 No. of Seats: 2)
Abdussalam Nassiyah (486) Omar Abu Kadr (374) No. 41 Mezda
General List (No. of Candidates: 22 No. of Seats: 1)
Fahmi Al-Tuwati (2,456) No. 42 Nalut
General List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)
Salem Ignan (705) No. 43 Batan Al-Jebel
General List (No. of Candidates: 7 No. of Seats: 1)
Ahfaith Shainah (1,116) No. 44 Kabaw
General List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)
Ali Al-Asawi (546) No. 45 Ghadames
General List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)
Abdulqader Hiba (726) Constituency 9 - Misrata
No. 46 Tawergha
General List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)
Janaballah Mohamed (668) No. 47 Misrata
General List (No. of Candidates: 49 No. of Seats: 7)
Suleiman Al-Fagieh (11,166) Fathi Bashagha (6,589) Mohamed Raied (2,690) Abdurrahman Sewehli (2,129) Mohamed Durrat (2,085) Mohamed Hneish (1,753) Kamal Al-Jamel (1,646) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)
Hanan Shalouf (15,882) No. 48 Bani Walid
General List (No. of Candidates: 26 No. of Seats: 2)
Hassan Msbah (650) Mohamed Ibrahim (474) No. 49 Zliten
General List (No. of Candidates: 39 No. of Seats: 4)
Mohamed Ben Khalil (1,277) Abdulghani Alftaisi (1,160) Ezzedden Gwereb (1,105) Aamar Al-Ablag (1,047) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 3; No. of seats: 1)
Naima Dalef (4,420) No. 50 Tarhouna
General List (No. of Candidates: 30 No. of Seats: 3)
Hassan Salem (628) Mohamed Al-Abani (530) Abubakr Saleh (520) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)
Sabah Fraij (1,906) No. 51 Emsalata
General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 2)
Adnan Shaab (930) Abdulmonem Al-Fagieh (623) Constituency 10 - Khoms
No. 52 Khoms Sahil
General List (No. of Candidates: 20 No. of Seats: 2)
Abubakr Milad (1,080) Yousef Al-Firjani (950) No. 53 Khoms Madina
General List (No. of Candidates: 17 No. of Seats: 2)
Abdulnasr Al-Naas (479) Kamal Abdul Kareem Al-Shalabi (404) No. 54 Qasr Al-Khiar
General List (No. of Candidates: 13 No. of Seats: 1)
Fathi Sharif (1,026) Constituency 11 – Tripoli
No. 55 Garabulli
General List (No. of Candidates: 10 No. of Seats: 1)
Ali Al-Sol (855) Women’sList (No. of Candidates:3 No. of Seats: 1)
Ibstisam Juma (1,311) No. 56 Tajoura
General List (No. of Candidates: 18 No. of Seats: 3)
Al-Sadiq Al-Kahaili (1,596) Abulkair Bilkhair (1,351) Khaled Al-Usta (1,172) No. 57 Suq Al-Juma
General List (No. of Candidates: 33 No. of Seats: 4)
Mustafa Abushagur (14,305) Luwai Al-Ghawi (1,900) Al-Sadiq Hamouda (1,515) Mohamed Rashid (1,362) Women List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)
Rabia Al-Fagieh (5,376) No. 58 Tripoli Central
General List (No. of Candidates: 28 No. of Seats: 2)
Hamuda Siyala (6,023) Ali Al-Tikbali (4,777) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 8 No. of Seats: 1)
Fawzia Abu Ghalia (7,330) No. 59 Hay Al-Andalus
General List (No. of Candidates: 44 No. of Seats: 3)
Faiz Al-Saraj (3,771) Ali Sbai (2,757) Musab Abulgasim (2,566) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 6 No. of Seats: 2)
Hana Abudeeb (3,503) Rabia Aburas (2,775) No. 60 Janzour
General List (No. of Candidates: 28 No. of Seats: 2)
Ayman Saif Al-Nasr (1,289) Bashir Ali Al-Ahmar (1,206) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 5; No. of seats: 1)
Sara Aswaiyah (4,127) No. 61 Abu Sleem
General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 3)
Saad Al-Marimi (2,248) Abdul-Raouf Al-Manaie (1,175) Tariq Al-Ashtar (855) Women’s List (No. of candidates: 6; No. of seats: 1)
Suad Al-Shilli (2,099) No. 62 Ain Zara
General List (No. of Candidates: 25 No. of Seats: 3)
Abdelnasser Ben Nafaa (925) Ali Al-Takali (676) Osama Shaafi (646) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 3 No. of Seats: 1)
Asmaa Al-Khojah (2,179) Constituency 12 – Azziziya
No. 63 Mayah
General List (No. of Candidates: 12 No. of Seats: 1)
Omar Tantoush (958) No. 64 Al-Nassiriyah
General List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)
Musbah Al-Badawi (1,316) No. 65 Azziziya
General List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 2)
Nabil Aoun (1,067) Ali Kashir (878) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 5 No. of Seats: 1)
Ibstisam Sallem (5,529) No. 66 Swani Ben Adem
General List (No. of Candidates: 9 No. of Seats: 1)
Ezzidden Burawi (873) No. 67 Qasr Ben Gashir
General List (No. of Candidates: 10 No. of Seats: 2)
Sadiq Idris (2,460) Mohamed Al-Fairas (2,155) No. 68 Esbaia – Sayeh
General List (No. of Candidates: 17 No. of Seats: 1)
Ali Al-Majboub (1,252) Constituency 13 – Zawia
No. 69 Zawia
General List (No. of candidates: 70; No. of seats: 7)
Mohamed Al-Hanish (2,271) Ali Abu Zariba (2,169) Amar Shaibaru (1,880) Imhemed Shaib (1,350) Salim Ganidi (1,286) Abdulnabi Abdulmuali (922) Abdallah Alafi (893) Women’s List (No. of Candidates: 9; No. of Seats:1)
Aisha Shalabi (6,533) No. 70 Sabratha
General List (No. of candidates: 15; No. of seats: 2)
Farak Abdulmalik (777)
Almabruk Elkabir (763)
No. 71 Al-Ajilat
General List (No. of candidates: 12; No. of seats: 2)
Abdulmonen Bilkur (1,300) Adel Mahfuz (772) No. 72 Sorman
General List (No.of candidates: 10: No. of seats: 1)
Fawzi Al-Nuwairi (1,440 votes) No. 73 Zuwara
No candidates
No. 74 Al-Jmail
Election suspended
No. 75 Rigdaleen and Zultan
Election suspended
Election system
[edit]I don't think the description of the three-tier system as given here is correct, and neither of the footnotes given (8 and 9) actually describes the election system. The above figures show that 188 members were elected from either single or multiple-member constituencies. (The remaining 12 were presumably from the districts were no vote took place.) There's no mention of members elected from party lists. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Annulled
[edit]Whats the precedence in dealing with annulled elections? User:Number 57Lihaas (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Previous precedence is that we just mention in the introduction and an aftermath section that the election results were annulled. The election still happened, so would still appear on the template and in lists of elections etc. Number 57 21:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Lihaas: Actually, reading this story, it's not clear if the results have actually been annulled. The opposition petition to the court was regarding the fact that the parliament was unconstitutional because it did not meet in the right city. Number 57 21:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- User:Number 57, hmmm, not sure what to say. But if the elected parliament is invalidated that would need a new election?Lihaas (talk) 03:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- We shall see. Parliament declared itself to be legal, and as far as it's concerned, will continue. Whether elections will be held or not is uncertain as yet AFAIK. Number 57 19:37, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- Court has final writ in determining constitutional validity...although I don't think theres much writ held anywhere here. Anyways, weve got the update, we can further update later. On the calendar page I mentioned it as annulled.Lihaas (talk) 23:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- We shall see. Parliament declared itself to be legal, and as far as it's concerned, will continue. Whether elections will be held or not is uncertain as yet AFAIK. Number 57 19:37, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- User:Number 57, hmmm, not sure what to say. But if the elected parliament is invalidated that would need a new election?Lihaas (talk) 03:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Lihaas: Actually, reading this story, it's not clear if the results have actually been annulled. The opposition petition to the court was regarding the fact that the parliament was unconstitutional because it did not meet in the right city. Number 57 21:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]Is there anywhere where I can get the breakup of the results by regions? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
@Sidoroff-B: The full results can be seen at Talk:2014_Libyan_parliamentary_election#Libya_Herald_figures Koopinator (talk) 11:35, 27 January 2019 (UTC).