Talk:2017 in video games

Things seriously wrong with this article

Firstly, it's presenting these future releases as fact. Anything could potentially happen between now and the scheduled release date of each game.

Secondly, it's giving release dates for North America, with no mention of what will happen in other geographic regions. It isn't clear how worldwide coverage would fit into the existing structure. — Smjg (talk) 23:23, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

We are listing their first release dates, not the release dates for North America. If a game was released in Europe first, then we would use the Europe release date. Since Japanese games need to go through the process of localization, we tend to list both its Japanese release date and first western release date. We have tried to implement worldwide view before but it does not really work out. AdrianGamer (talk) 15:12, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

No, "The list of games released, or due for release, in 2017 in North America", etc. indicates that releases in North America is the scope of the section. If it's giving the North American release date for a particular game because that's where it was first released or is first scheduled to be released, the article needs to be honest about this, rather than pretending that NA releases are the scope of the information (which would require it to be at the title 2017 in video gaming in North America or similar).

A suitable way to do this would be to add a 'First released in region' column to the tables to which it is applicable, and change the lead of these sections to something like "Each game is listed according to the first geographical region in which it is released". Of course, if a game or console is (to be) first released in multiple regions simultaneously, we would acknowledge this. If it happens that, in a given year, every first release of a video game will be simultaneously in Canada, the United States, Mexico and nowhere else, then maybe we can substitute an addition to the lead sentence like "All games due for release in 2017 will be first released in North America". This way, it's clear that the NA release date is given because it's the game's first release date. — Smjg (talk) 13:18, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

That does not sound like something necessary, given that where it was released first is not important in most cases. That line is misleading. It says it list the North American release dates but the list is listing its first release date. AdrianGamer (talk) 12:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

These future releases are fact. If something does happen between now and the scheduled release date, that is also fact, just one that is unknown at this time (but will be known, and updated accordingly, if and when the time comes). As it stands, these are the current scheduled release dates for the games. If we were to follow a "But something could happen!" philosophy, we'd never be able to write articles about upcoming products/films/games, etc., which is a large part of Wikipedia. – Rhain ☔ 15:46, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

"The year 2017 will see" is basically claiming that it's proven with 100% certainty. OK, so it seems that this is now the only instance of language to this effect. I'll amend it now. — Smjg (talk) 13:18, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

If this really is showing the "first release dates," then why is DanganRonpa v3 showing the NA date when the Japan date was far earlier? 75.186.40.26 (talk) 02:08, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

• RE 'we are listing the first release date' this is demonstratably untrue as quite a few of the Japanese centric games were released a year earlier in Japan. (See Digimon for example). The approach seems inconsistant in that some games are listed either by first release date or first release date in the US/EU. Only in death does duty end (talk) 10:38, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

The Game Release schedule articles are being cluttered with sloppy and inconsistent information. These being the Major Awards, List of vaporware games, Critically praised games according to Metacritic, Video game-based film releases, Financial performance, and Best-selling games tables.

• Major Awards – Inaccurate information that attempts to mash different award shows together creating confused and misrepresented categories. These section has its own dedicated article.

• List of vaporware games – This table is populated with games that have no expected release date and lack references beyond the titles being in development at one point in time. For some reason this was tacked onto the 2019 Video game list. Vaporware games has a dedicated article.

• Critically praised games according to Metacritic – The games included on this table all have a reception area in their respective articles that cite metacritc and other review scores.

• Video game-based film releases – This table is extremely arbitrary and randomly applied to a single article. Many video games are based on some existing media. That information is handled in individual article. There are games based on books, TV shows, and movies. A list of media that inspired games is inconsistent with the intent of yearly release article.

• Financial performance – redundant information that isn’t related to a game’s first release or schedule.

• Best-selling games tables – Much like the “Financial Performance entry. Its information that’s irrelevant to the video schedule articles and has other pages dedicated to it.

Silas 00 (talk) 05:20, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

If these articles are to describe the video game industry's changes over a year (it's not just about a schedule of games, otherwise the title is misleading), things like Major Awards, Financial Performance, and Best-Selling Games are very much key metrics for this. I do agree List of Vaporware makes no sense. The top MC rated games is questionable. --Masem (t) 05:27, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Scalebound removed

I have removed Scalebound from the list of games coming this year - It has been officially cancelled 81.138.3.98 (talk) 10:55, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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Thimbleweed Park release date locked in . However, I'm to afraid to edit the article page.

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Remove Jumanji from Video Game based film releases.

The Jumanji film uses a fictional magical video game as a plot device. It is not based on any real video game or video game media, and thus does not warrant being on the list. 47.60.46.86 (talk) 12:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

It has a video game, even if fictional, at the center of its plot. Its not an adaption of a video game, but that's not a requirement, just that the film is significantly involved around video games. Its like Tron is clearly a video game-based film , though at the time, not based on any specific video game. Masem (t) 12:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

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