Talk:2019 World Figure Skating Championships

Bell-Lim incident

@Drmargi: The edit warring and BLP violations by Special:Contributions/117.111.0.0/19 need to stop immediately, so I've issued them a 3RR warning to the latest IP. For your part, you could've opened the talk page discussion earlier and linked to it in the edit summary (clearly the IP cannot find it). The only reason you're not also getting a 3RR warning is that WP:BLP applies to the content. I'm opening this talk page discussion in case the IP has valid sources that would suggest their version is WP:DUE weight, but I highly doubt it based on video of the incident.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:10, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For those interested (@Drmargi, Iseult, General Ization, and Nsk92:), there was one minor valid point by the IP, namely that the right-of-way rule doesn't seem to be something ISU themselves mentioned. However, it does not change the paradigm of the situation since the right-of-way rule, official or not, is a cardinal rule of all freestyle or practice sessions anywhere in the world. Two sources to that end were added.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:18, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, and for the IP's benefit, even if they had had nothing but valid points, edit-warring is not tolerated here as a means to make them. General Ization ^Talk 07:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Warning noted, Jasper; funnily enough, I had started a discussion yesterday afternoon, was interrupted, and never went back to it thinking I had finished it. I appreciate the extra hands getting this under control; I had left a message asking an admin to have a look, but she hadn't gotten to it when you all got to work on the problem.

At the time the accident happened, the ISU issued a broadcast statement during the competition clearing Mariah Bell, much as stated in the original version of the entry, so that was our original source. Despite this, there was a fan-girl war over Bell's supposed motives. We also saw abundant video at the time that made it clear that Lim wasn't watching where she was going and got in Bell's way, but again her fans acribed all manner of motives to Bell, and as with the IP, expected Bell to prove a negative: that she didn't intend to hit Lim. I can't believe someone found it necessary to dredge it all up again two years later, much less to this degree. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 19:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IP is back

New edits are highly inflammatory and equally POV. I've notified Cullen and requested he re-protect the article. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 23:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's simply no excuse now that I've provided two additional sources. Same range, same type of editing. Time for another rangeblock.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you've read the new posting, which is just over the top. This is a fan girl who won't stop, no doubt about that. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 00:10, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've semi protected the article for ten days. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have a feeling that it might not be long enough, though. This dynamic IP user is already showing some LTA potential. We'll see what happens on April 11. Nsk92 (talk) 00:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralNotability: gave them a week-long rangeblock for BLP violations. If this were an account, it'd probably be indefinite. My thoughts are that it'll probably end up being longer. It's sad because I wish for more attention on Wikipedia's skating-related content, but not this sort. @Cullen328: for the record, you might want to watch Mariah Bell which has gotten the same drivel.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mariah Bell is now on my watchlist as well. Let me know if the disruption resumes. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear the two skaters' articles are under scutiny. I just came back from checking both and reviewing their history; the long, ugly interaction is largely in Mariah Bell's article. It was pretty awful at the time, and lead to several long-term blocks. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 04:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In the oft-chance the IP actually reads this (they evidently at least skimmed my "cardinal rule" comment above), it clearly seems like they are trying to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. That's not what Wikipedia is for.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]