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continued misrepresentation of MA result[edit]

Massachusetts law treats No Preference as a candidate, to be counted and certified as such. The official Secretary of State certification of the results listed NP as the winner. The claim that the SOS "recognized" Supreme as the winner in MA is false, and premised only on the automated display on the MA SOS site not recognizing NP as a candidate. But that has no legal standing and is irrelevant: it was never a claim by the SOS that Supreme and not NP was the winner. It wasn't even the result of any human being making that claim.

I agree that the whole purpose of this page is dubious and more misleading than helpful, and it should probably be folded into the convention article. But if the primaries are going to have their own article the results should be counted accurately per state law, not with a false claim about a secretary of state declaring the runner-up the real winner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.105.63 (talk) 07:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to see NP credited with the win. Where can we find the official certification? Okcgunner (talk) 12:32, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Okcgunner: If anybody can find official results saying NP won, then I'd be happy to change it. I've done some searching and haven't found that, though. If you go to the Research and Statistics page on the Secretary of State website, the only results provided are in the searchable database that we've already cited under Election Results 1970-2020. Upon searching for the contest, you do get to a page that says "Vermin Love Supreme won (10%) against 9 opponents". Also, the candidate list— which is not part of the searchable results database—does not list NP. It's possible that Massachusetts does not recognize NP as a candidate and will not declare it the winner; some states do that. It's also possible that this searchable database is the way in which MA displays official results, despite similar databases being labeled "unofficial" in other states. A nice PDF would certainly be better, but we have to work with what we have. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 08:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since it's a nonbinding primary which only informs the LPs internal decisions by delegates, I think maybe we should just indicate NP won, since it did get the most votes. And the searchable database at the MA Secretary of State website is kind of a weak claim for Supreme being declared the winner. Those may not be official, certified results. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]