Talk:2022 University of Idaho killings

Redirect for name of accused

@Valereee and Jauerback: I noticed that the title Bryan Kohberger has been salted to prevent creation of a redirect. At the time the title was salted (January 6), I think the cautionary approach made sense. The relevant policy is WP:BLPNAME, which states that "it is often preferable to omit" names when "the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed". However, at this point, the name of the accused has been widely disseminated in reliable sources with national-level readership (see e.g. The New York Times, NBC News, Time, ABC News, The Wall Street Journal), and we now dedicate a whole section of this article to discussion of this individual. Because of this, I would argue that a redirect should be created from Bryan Kohberger to this article. Would either of you still oppose? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 07:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mz7, I agree, it should be unsalted. Er, looks like I don't know how to do that lol...I guess I should have just temporarily salted? Should I now just change it to expire in an hour? Valereee (talk) 13:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

No opposition here. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 15:19, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@Valereee and Jauerback: Thanks! I was able to create the redirect through the salt, so no need to modify the protection. Mz7 (talk) 17:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see! Thanks! Valereee (talk) 17:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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Investigation Section

I'll try to get back to this eventually but don't have time any time soon, so maybe this mention will motivate someone else who has been following the court proceedings…

The details listed in this article seem to be from news sources and don't match the information that's come out in the pre-trial court events.

The court documents are all available on Idaho.gov If you scroll down on the main page they have a Cases of Interest page with all of the court documents available there. Jelly Garcia (talk) 20:07, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jelly Garcia This is common problem everywhere. The news gets something wrong, but it gets blasted everywhere and never corrected. It would take someone really dedicated to this case to make the corrections. 47.132.127.113 (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Name of the accused

It seems inconsistent to me to have the accused name present in this article. The policy WP:BLPCRIME seems pretty clear to me on not naming people until convicted unless they are already a person of note. Some may argue that the accused is well-known at this point, but there are other cases that are also widely reported on and the decision has been made to keep the accused out of the article. For example: Murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. In this case the accused is maintaining his innocence and again the policy seems quite clear to not name people until a conviction has been secured. Pictwe (talk) 00:47, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The policy does not say "to not name people until a conviction has been secured". Rather, it says "editors must seriously consider not including material ...". It would seem that editors have "considered", and determined, that the widespread publication of Kohberger's name warrants its inclusion here. WWGB (talk) 03:38, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Yet they decided the opposite in the case I linked to. Curious. Especially when in the other case the lawyers are giving press releases, and in this case the accused is trying to preserve his privacy and keep the media out. Pictwe (talk) 06:08, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Each article has its own local consensus. This article found consensus for including the suspect's name; the other article hasn't. See Talk:Murders_of_Abigail_Williams_and_Liberty_German#RfC:_Suspect's_name. Some1 (talk) 12:28, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Says he pleaded not guilty. He didn’t

He stood silent. A plea was entered on his behalf Jelly Garcia (talk) 00:01, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jelly Garcia he did not enter a plea. The court entered a plea on his behalf. Idaho Pleas Rule 11 for reference. 47.132.127.113 (talk) 22:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

"A plea was entered on his behalf" is literally what I said. Jelly Garcia (talk) 13:34, 17 December 2023 (UTC)