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Pictures of the accident aircraft

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Just to mention it, three pictures of the accident aircraft from 2005, 2016, and 2021 are available at c:Category:G-FRYL (aircraft). This was before it was registered as N28JV, but it's the same airframe, serial RB-97. – Recoil16 (talk) 17:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 – Photograph corrected to original accident aircraft.
Thanks for the heads up. Cheers, gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 05:33, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 August 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Article renamed to 2023 Elmina plane crash per consensus of requested move. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 04:45, 26 August 2023 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]


Elmina plane crash → ? – Move to either 2023 Selangor Beechcraft Model 390 crash or 2023 Elmina Beechcraft Model 390 crash. Per WP:AVINAME on the inclusion of year and aircraft type. For the re-location of the title to Selangor, it is more often referred to as Selangor instead of Elmina in most international media not based in Malaysia, which makes it more identifiable to an international audience since more people likely know of Selangor instead of Elmina. See CNA article (Small aircraft crashes on highway in Malaysia's Selangor, 10 dead including motorists), The Guardian article (A light plane crashed into a street in Malaysia’s central Selangor state on Thursday...) and AP (A small aircraft lost control and crashed Thursday on a highway in Malaysia’s central Selangor state, killing ...)
Would appreciate if you can indicate which one to support, whether it is with the change of Elmina to Selangor or not, or oppose the move entirely. S5A-0043Talk 02:10, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • 2023 Selangor plane crash will be more fitting because we are referring to the plane crash in the state in general. Elmina plane crash should also be added as a redirect to the main page which is 2023 Selangor plane crash. Sultanified (talk) 23:55, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Any consensus? I've seen three supports for 2023 Shah Alam plane crash and three supports for 2023 Elmina plane crash, as well as other mentions of variations involving Beechcraft and Selangor.
If there are no more updates then the article will be renamed by 25 August under the two contenders above. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 07:24, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Article name moved to 2023 Elmina plane crash per consensus of requested move. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 03:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Fair-use images of crash

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Would it be useful to add stills from surveillance video footage such as http://a57-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/08/1200/675/Malaysia-plane-crash.png? Cheers, cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 09:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could do, although the copyright status seems vague. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 12:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Plane crash site image suggestions

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Replace the file of Elmina Interchange in 2021 with a more recent one that shows the damage in the highway as this one. Midame0 (talk) 00:11, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not possible to use this image due to copyright restrictions. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 02:35, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Improper title after RM closure

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It seems that the consensus of the requested move wasn't followed in the title. It seems that most people in the RM supported the inclusion of aircraft type (Beechcraft Model 390/Beechcraft Premier I) in at least some form, with this supported by WP:AVTITLE, yet this wasn't included in the title. Plane crash is informal and doesn't give an idea of scale to the reader. Something like 2023 Elmina Beechcraft 390 crash or 2023 Elmina Beechcraft Premier crash would be names that more closely follow the consensus and AVTITLE. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 15:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]