Talk:2023 Gold Coast mid-air collision

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Requested move 2 January 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that 2023 Gold Coast helicopter crash be renamed and moved to ....

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Moved to 2023 Gold Coast mid-air collision. See below about as snowy a New Year as it can get. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 11:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2023 Gold Coast helicopter crash → ? – either 2023 Gold Coast helicopter mid-air collision or 2023 Gold Coast mid-air collision – Per standardization with other articles that, regarding mid air collisions involving 2 aircraft, do not call it "crash" but instead "collision" or "mid-air collision". Examples include 2014 Olsberg mid-air collision, 2009 California mid-air collision, 2009 Hudson River mid-air collision, 2007 Zell am See mid-air collision and others. (Not sure whether this is the correct way to suggest 2 options for moving but I think it should work for now) SBS6577P (talk) 10:31, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support with the second one Common name first. Air Astana 1388 (talk) 15:09, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support any title that says "mid-air collision". Abductive (reasoning) 23:10, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support title change to “2023 Gold Coast mid-air collision” as per your argument, the other one doesn’t flow as well. TheLachstar (talk) 02:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support the second option. Red MetlHedd (talk) 05:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support second option as per the titles of similar articles such as 2009 Hudson River mid-air collision and 2007 Zell am See mid-air collision. Steelkamp (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support second option, per common thread. Adog (Talk・Cont) 18:20, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Crash sounds rather informal and doesn't give much information. "Helicopter mid-air collision" sounds better to me, as it clarifies what collided, but it seems precedent is behind option two. Heavy Water (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support (second one) more concise with the same impact and information for the reader. - GA Melbourne (talk) 07:35, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to 2023 Gold Coast mid-air collision for match similar article titles per above. --Harobouri • 🎢 • 🏗️ (he/him) 16:28, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support (second option). It makes logical sense and has a precedent based on the proposal. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 22:37, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Aircraft history

@Canolanext Can you clarify on what you mean "Don't need history of where aircraft is from way too verbose has no affect on the events of the crash." I already tried to shrink the info down already, and I'm not sure whether your "has no affect on the events of the crash" would explain why articles such as MH370, 2017 Sydney Seaplanes DHC-2 crash, 2009 California mid-air collision and many others have these info even though the history of the planes have "has no affect on the events of the crash". SBS6577P (talk) 13:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the aircraft section should be put back, although referring to the aircraft as their registration instead of “arriving” and “departing” throughout the article is a bit verbose. TheLachstar (talk) 02:23, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I found "arriving" and "departing" very easy to follow. If you replace that with numbers it would be much harder to follow. Anthonyhcole (talk) 12:16, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. "Arriving" and "departing" is unambiguous, and certainly more easy to understand for the lay reader than registrations/serials, especially when they are similar, and both aircraft are the same model and operator. Nick Cooper (talk) 13:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Added time zone

Added time zone under “Occurrence” using References/Citations 1-4 (listed below) local to location with 24 hour time [and time zone as GMT] in parenthesis. As well as a news article I found [Ref. 3] also below)

(Ref. 1) Colasimone, Dan; Callinan, Rory (2 January 2023). "Four dead after two helicopters collide near Sea World on the Gold Coast" — ABC News

(Ref. 2) Cabral, Sam (2 January 2023). "Australia helicopter collision: Four dead in mid-air incident over Gold Coast" — BBC News

(Ref. 3) Branco, Jorge; 9News Staff (3 January 2023). "Gold Coast helicopter crash: Four dead in accident near Sea World" — Nine News (9News)

(Ref. 4) Marris, Sharon (2 January 2023). "Four dead after two helicopters collide in mid-air near Sea World theme park in Australia" — Sky News

Sroth0616 (talk) 17:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC) Sroth0616 (talk) 17:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]