Talk:2023 Kramatorsk restaurant missile strike

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Soldiers[edit]

In the two sources provided I see it only mentioned that the restaurant was popular with civilians and international journalists. Not seeing the “soldiers” part. Am I missing it? Volunteer Marek 06:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The New York Times article says; "With its covered outdoor seating, Ria Lounge is especially popular in the summer. Ukrainian soldiers stationed nearby, some of them freshly returned from the front, are frequent visitors, along with locals, foreign journalists and aid workers." Al Jazeera also mentions that Ukrainian soldiers would drop by to eat there; "...in the attack on Tuesday evening that hit the Ria Pizza restaurant in the city centre, which was popular with locals, soldiers, aid workers and journalists." [1].--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 18:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rename[edit]

Rename e.g. Missile strike on Kramatorsk restaurant or (Missile strike on Kramatorsk restaurant (2023)), or sth similar;
"2023 Kramatorsk" — ? (up till now there (yet) exists 1 Kramatorsk);
3 missiles of 10 were allegedly not "intercepted"... ☆☆☆—Pietadè^Talk 15:51, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

War crimes[edit]

Per WP:CATPOV categories should generally be uncontroversial. In case of war crimes we should at least have some reliable sources calling it a war crime to categorise an article like this. No one disputes that the majority of victims here were civilians, but it doesn't automatically mean that it was a war crime. Alaexis_¿question? 14:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Read the "Response" section, it was described as war crime.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 16:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's been added recently. Alaexis_¿question? 18:37, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]