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Wikipedia:Notability Important Congressional hearing.[edit]

Widely reported in WP:RS sources such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, NBC, POLITICO etc, of which over 20 WP:RS are cited here. RogerYg (talk) 11:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the most widely reported hearings in the National & International media, with Google having over 1000 news articles on this topic, and it is the most viewed Congressional Hearing in Human History with over 1 billion views. With over 20 High quality WP:RS Sources in this article, Notability notice is not appropraite. RogerYg (talk) 07:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hearing section - Discuss before major edits[edit]

Important well-cited details should not be deleted without any strong reason, and TALK page discussion. The Content is from High quality WP:RS sources. The quoted exact question is an essential detail of this hearing, and there is no strong reason to delete it. RogerYg (talk) 07:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I restored the quote from Kornbluth in context that introduced that line of questioning, and a more prominent link to the full transcript. A specific quote could go elsewhere in the section. – SJ + 23:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, yes the specific quote can go in the next paragraph. RogerYg (talk) 03:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The neutrality notice is no longer required in my opinion[edit]

While there is still a non-insignificant degree of bias against the people claiming that antisemitism is as pervasive as it is in my opinion, the notice on neutrality is no longer appropriate in my opinion. FortunateSons (talk) 21:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the neutrality notice should be removed, as no editor has provided sufficient grounds to prove a bias in this article. This article is quite neutral, factual and balanced. RogerYg (talk) 03:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is clearly antisemitism because the left was attacking Jews... not Zionists, not Israelis, but simply Jews for being Jewish. Like it or not Jews born and raised in the United States are Americans, they have both positive and negative views on Israel like all Americans are entitled to have. The left targeting them because of something happening in a totally different country is targeting them based on religion is antiSemitism. And the response of the colleges, by allowing attacks and threats on a minority group while punishing nonviolent speech on behalf of another also plays to antisemitism. 2601:246:5A83:D090:31E3:59DD:F0D2:45E7 (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC) restriction relevant to I/P apply, so this kind of editing is not permitted for those who are not extended confirmed FortunateSons (talk) 21:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting minor bias in the article[edit]

Some statements are qualified beyond the required degree, such as claims regarding antisemitism. Additionally, the aftermath section requires some extension in my opinion. Is there a reason to disagree? FortunateSons (talk) 21:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I agree that you are "in good faith" trying to provide a more cautious & neutral language for the claims. I am okay with it. Generally Wikipedia should reflect the sourced content even on such claims, though we should have multiple sources to have a balanced article. RogerYg (talk) 03:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removing some past edits[edit]

Some of the past edits do not appear impartial, such as the removal of some sections regarding the publicity and the removal from “incitement to genocide”. Could those edits please be explained or reversed? FortunateSons (talk) 21:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could you mention some more details on the edits, so we can have better discussion.RogerYg (talk) 03:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

-some of the context removed by SJ on 12.19

-Special:Contributions/31.167.245.26 on 12.18 FortunateSons (talk) 10:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Particularly, the removal from „incitement to genocide“ is very questionable FortunateSons (talk) 10:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]