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the old lga map of wanneroo could surely be better substituted with a more appropriate OSM map? JarrahTree 07:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article name - Wanneroo or Mariginiup

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I question the rename from Wanneroo bushfire to Mariginiup Bushfire.

  • A glance at the reference titles (mainly news headlines) shows multiple instances of "Wanneroo" and none of "Mariginiup".
  • The list of affected suburbs has "Wanneroo (severely affected)" but only "Mariginiup" (presumably not severely affected).
  • https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/# says (capitalisation in original) "parts of JANDABUP, MELALEUCA, WANNEROO and MARIGINIUP in the CITY OF WANNEROO and CITY OF SWAN"

@Itisonly4me: exactly which "Department of Fire and Emergency Services WA and other Western Australian state and local government resources" (URLs please) calls it "Mariginiup Bushfire 2023"?
Notifying JarrahTree because of [1]

(In any case, it should be lowercase "bushfire" but to avoid confusion I won't change that until Wanneroo/Mariginiup is resolved.)

Mitch Ames (talk) 23:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Named natural disasters. Natural disasters of significance are given proper names so that they can be unambiguously referred to across many agencies and in the public realm. Names of fires are typically based on the locality in which they started by the agency responsible for response coordination. In this case I believe the Department of Fire and Emergency Services (WA) named this incident and since then this is how it was referred to by the Emergency WA website; the National Emergency Management Agency (Fed) and their Disaster Assist website; The Shire of Wanneroo including in the promotion of the Lord Mayor’s Distress Relief Fund. I hesitate to use news headlines as a definitive source of such things so look to formal agencies that deal with these matters. I note that a number of news agencies referred to the Mariginiup bushfire and only a few exceptions called it the Wanneroo bushfire. Wanneroo was appropriately referred to by the media as the broader area affected, and both names are in use by different organisations and individuals—as neither is overwhelmingly common I’d prefer to see us use the formal one.
Names matter and I believe “Wanneroo bushfire” is not correct here.
I vacillated over the capital-B bushfire, but as it was part of a formal name decided to go with it. Having looked into this more closely now it is typical to use ‘bushfire’ so it should be Mariginiup bushfire 2023. Itisonly4me (talk) 01:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever name you give it should start with the Year, as every other one in Category:Bushfires in Western Australia. Calistemon (talk) 05:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]