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Harris picture

I think the picture of Harris should be changed from her official vice-presidential portrait to a more recent one since in the Democratic 2024, 2020, 2016, Republican 2024, 2020, 2016, 2012 primaries articles the vast majority of pictures used for candidates, with the notable exception of candidates who are incumbent presidents, are ones taken during or close in time to the primaries instead of official portraits. Harris is not the incumbent president, so I think a more recent image should be used for her Punker85 (talk) 22:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But she is the incumbent VP. Her portrait was taken at the same time as Biden's was and in my opinion, her appearance didn't change dramatically for it to warrant an 'updated' picture. At this point, if we're going to change Kamala's pic, we should do the same for Joe or if we're keeping Joe's portrait, I can't see a valid reason as to why Kamala's shouldn't be kept. I was also opposed to changing Trump's portrait on the 2024 US election article, but the consensus was that the pic was seven years out dated and that his appearance allegedly changed. Three years (year of Kamala's pic) is not a long time IMO for there to be a drastic change in appearance to warrant a change in picture. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harris didn’t participate in the primaries, therefore she shouldn’t be listed AT ALL. 64.18.11.14 (talk) 11:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Williamson in infobox

I believe that even though an earlier consensus agreed the second-place human candidate should be on the infobox, Williamson doesn’t fit the criteria. As she’s received no pledged delegates, or support besides stating that she’s challenging Harris Expoe34 (talk) 02:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Williamson is in the convention nomination section of the infobox, not in the section about the primaries. So, I think the criteria for inclusion in the infobox shouldn't apply for the convention section since the convention isn't really a part of the primaries and I think all declared major candidates should instead be included in the convention section Punker85 (talk) 20:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not everyone who ran in the primaries is running in the convention, so that would be unnecessary. David O. Johnson (talk) 21:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

True and I think I badly expressed myself. What I wanted to say is that I think declared major candidates who are still running in the race should be included in the convention nomination section of the infobox. So like how candidates were included in the infoboxes of state primaries/caucuses articles for the 2024 Republican and Democratic primaries before the results were in Punker85 (talk) 01:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not even sure who's running, tbh. I think Harris filed, but details are sparse. [1]. Today was the deadline to submit it [2] and I haven't seen anything indicating Williamson filed.

If Kamala is the only one running, the virtual vote will be held as early August 1. [3].

We'll find out what's going on eventually.David O. Johnson (talk) 02:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harris filed according to the FEC: [4]

As for Williamson, she amended her statement of candidacy on July 8: [5] Punker85 (talk) 17:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Punker85, the FEC filing has no bearing on the virtual roll call process, which is separate.

Please see this NPR article: [6] and this CBS article: [7] for more info on that process.

As I mentioned earlier, it seems that Harris filed for it (per The Hill article), but it's unclear if Williamson did the same. David O. Johnson (talk) 18:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, OK, I misunderstood what you said earlier Punker85 (talk) 22:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The results of the roll call vote are supposed to be finalized at 6pm ET today. RickStrate2029 (talk) 18:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformation and slander

This article repeats misinformation and slander about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He is not anti-vaccine. What he advocates for is vaccine safety and efficacy, which is not the same thing as being anti-vaccine. It's irresponsible of Wikipedia to repeat slander like this and damages Wikipedia's credibility. Natparry (talk) 10:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources describe him has being an anti-vaccine activist; see his article. — Czello ^(music) 10:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of Frankie Lozada in the Other Candidates Section

Should we add Frankie Lozada next to Cenk Uygur in the other candidate's section?

This candidate won Loving County over Biden in the Texas 2024 Democratic Primary before withdrawing from the race and endorsing Jason Palmer. Frankie Lozada had the only other county victory by a candidate over Biden alongside Dean Philips' victories. Since he won a county in the primary Lozada is featured on this page's results section map. Additionally, Lozada's name is on this page's 'Initial pledged delegate allocation' and 'First-place results by county' map legends. People visiting this page may think it is odd that Lozada's name is included on the results page but not included as a candidate in the other candidates that withdrew during the primaries section. Smobes (talk) 03:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because he doesn't have the requirements to be in the other candidates section (which are having a Wikipedia page and being sourced) and I don't think winning one county is noteworthy enough to make an exception for him

And also, Frankie Lozada shouldn't be in the legend for the initial pledged delegates map since he haven't won a single delegate Punker85 (talk) 20:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Final delegate count

Anyone have the information on the final delegate count, so we can add that to the article? Prcc27 (talk) 06:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]