Talk:2024 Jasper wildfire

Canada: Alberta Low‑importance

	Canada portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Canada, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Canada on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CanadaWikipedia:WikiProject CanadaTemplate:WikiProject CanadaCanada-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Alberta.

Disaster management Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Current events

This article is part of WikiProject Current events, an attempt to expand and better organize information in articles related to current events. If you would like to participate in the project, visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.Current eventsWikipedia:WikiProject Current eventsTemplate:WikiProject Current eventsCurrent events articles

Wildfire Mid‑importance

	2024 Jasper wildfire is part of WikiProject Wildfire, which collaborates on wildfire-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.WildfireWikipedia:WikiProject WildfireTemplate:WikiProject WildfireWildfire articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Weather: Droughts / Wildfires Low‑importance

	Weather portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Weather, which collaborates on weather and related subjects on Wikipedia. To participate, help improve this article or visit the project page for details. Articles Requested Project Resources Become a Member Project Talk Assessment A-Class Alerts WeatherWikipedia:WikiProject WeatherTemplate:WikiProject WeatherWeather articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Droughts and wildfires task force (assessed as Low-importance).

As of August 2024, all cited online sources and external links in this article have been archived using the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, archive.today or another web archive.

Better title?

I created this page on a whim after seeing no existing article. The fire started in the nearby mountains, but Jasper is the most familiar name in that area. Should we change the title? Koopatrev (talk; contrib) 10:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm open to changing the article title to Jasper wildfire, per similar title to Lytton wildfire. Other additional reasons is that the year seems redundant in the title and that Jasper wildfire appears to be the common name in news article titles. CastleFort1 (talk) 15:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Initial timeline

I was staying at the Wabasso campground and was part of the evacuation. I have checked and do not believe that means I'm involved within the context of WP:COI. Now that the preamble is over. The Progression section notes a wildfire was reported at 7 PM. The citation notes this report was "just after 7 PM, to a second fire south of the town shortly after". Anyone have any sources to firm up the timeline a bit, or to cite the 8:35 PM time of the evacuation alert? I'm also interested to know about any emergency broadcast alerts issued. I didn't receive one (but be careful, my experience isn't sufficient, see WP:NOR), but left the campground at 8:52 PM and probably would have been out of the broadcast area by 10 PM. I'd also love to be able to add information about the three major campgrounds in the area (Whistlers, Wapiti, Wabasso) but as of July 30, haven't found any reliable sources on their condition. --Yamla (talk) 18:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 August 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: move this page to 2024 Jasper wildfire, procedural close regarding the part that was added on August 12. The most recent relisters asked about consensus about the second move, but the second part of the proposal was never actually added to the request properly, so the talk page there was never notified over the three weeks that this request was open. I suggest making the proposed move of Jasper Fire a separate request at Talk:Jasper Fire. Dekimasuよ! 10:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jasper wildfire → 2024 Jasper wildfire
Jasper Fire → 2000 Jasper wildfire

Perhaps moving the article to that name or 2024 Jasper wildfires (note the s at the end), many people would probably search Jasper Fire and be brought to the other unrelated article. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 18:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per the point in the nomination that disambiguation is needed from the Jasper Fire.--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:37, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support and also added Jasper Fire as an RM candidate. We should turn Jasper wildfire into a disambiguation page and redirect Jasper Fire to it. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support on both moves — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 10:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above Waqar💬 20:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 1, neutral on 2. Need 1 to avoid confusion with 2000 Jasper fire Wildfireupdateman (talk) 20:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral 1, oppose 2. None of the sources cited at Jasper Fire use "Jasper wildfire", and none of the sources cited at Jasper wildfire use "Jasper Fire". The titles, while similar, are distinct. Consistency with reliable secondary sources comes first. 162 etc. (talk)
@162 etc.: What do you suggest we do then? The 2000 fire certainly isn't the primary topic for "Jasper fire", as evidenced by the large number of sources for the 2024 fire referring to it as such: [1] [2] [3]. So the second one has to be moved somewhere. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Parks Canada, Alberta Wildfire, and a few media sites have been using the name "Jasper Wildfire Complex" (eg. 1, 2, 3) ever since the wildfires in the area merged, so maybe that would be another option given. Rockysmile11^(talk) 22:29, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: The question should be whether sources in proposal two uses wildfire or just Jasper Fire. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Current events, WikiProject Wildfire, WikiProject Weather/Droughts and wildfires task force, Canadian Wikipedians' notice board, WikiProject Alberta, WikiProject Disaster management, and WikiProject Weather have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relisting for additional participation; consensus is not yet clear for #2 BilledMammal (talk) 09:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.