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Why is this called 'American'-Russian prisoner exchange, given that most (non-Russian) prisoners exchanged aren't actually American? 192.76.8.93 (talk) 14:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created this article without being aware that other non-Russian prisoners were being released other than Gershkovich and Whelan. However, the exchange occurred between the U.S. and Russia. Russian Wikipedia is using the title "Prisoner exchange between Russia and the West", which is not ideal, either; "the West" is a colloquialism. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
13 of the 26 western prisoners are to be released to Germany. Germany is releasing the most high-value Russian we know of de:Wadim Nikolajewitsch Krassikow. The US wasn't even the leading force behind this, Germany was in long talks with Russia for the release of Navaly and family.
2024 Ankara prisoner exchange maybe? Beliar (talk) 15:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would appreciate it if someone would change the article title to "2024 Russian prisoner exchange" for the time being, or, until a new proposal is made. I have the privileges but don't know how to do it on mobile...
Urro[talk][edits]15:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But Belarus is also in the mix. Russia is not alone on one side of this exchange. Rutsq (talk) 15:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The place of the exchange seems to be the best descriptor when we don't want any vague terms. And since Turkey MIT is very activly involved, this is no false focus. Saying this is an American exchange really feels wrong reading the list of prisoners in the Russian article Beliar (talk) 15:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Out of all of the articles I have seen on the topic, every single one includes "Russia" at the least. Most say "between Russia and America", while others say "between Russia and the West". So, I have changed the article title to "2024 Russian prisoner exchange" for now. It will likely be changed in the future. You are each right to say that it is uninclusive to label it as "American-Russian", but I do not know what else it could be named... It is hard to generalize this for a fit title, in my opinion.
Urro[talk][edits]18:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like the German Wikipedia's article title. See 2024 international prisoner exchange.
Urro[talk][edits]19:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The current title seems to be OK. One should focus on describing the people involved, especially on the Russian side (e.g. [1], etc.) My very best wishes (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All four countries on the "West" side are NATO members. Would "NATO-Russian prisoner exchange" work? OneGyT (talk) 16:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, this is not a common name and a poor descriptive name. However, 2024 international prisoner exchange, as suggested by Urro just above, would be OK. My very best wishes (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding this Benica11 (talk) 03:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Third, but we might want to check if there are other earlier international prisoner exchange this year to prevent confusion Cherry567 (talk) 10:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can we split the list in two to highlight the nature of the exchange: those released by Russia (16 adults), and those released to Russia (8 adults, 2 minors)? Currently it's very difficult to tell which side a "Russian" was on. Jpatokal (talk) 02:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, it should be added where they are jailed, and for what reason. Sofeshue (talk) 03:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]