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Reviewer: AustralianRupert (talk · contribs) 06:47, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I will review the article following its nomination for GA. Initial observations/comments to follow shortly. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:47, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Initial comments/observations: G'day, lots of great information in the article, and it is well referenced overall. I have done some copy editing earlier, and think that it will need a little more work in that area if you are wanting to take it to A-class. Beyond that, though, I have the following initial observations/comments. If you can cover off on these, I will take another look. Thank you: AustralianRupert (talk) 07:20, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • are there any images of the regiment's soldiers during the Great War that might be relevant?
  • is there any more detail that can be provided about the regiment's actions during World War I? Currently, the section looks very small compared to the others
  • per the above, the Great War section probably should mention when and where it was constituted and organised, and potentially when it embarked for overseas etc
  • do we know who commanded the regiment during the Great War?
    • The article mentions a major commanding the regiment during the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, are we sure of this? Is it more likely that Stevens commanded one of its battalions? The cited source says "The assault battalion of the 47th Infantry Regiment, commanded by MAJ James Stevens...", which leads me to believe it is referring to him commanding a single battalion, not the whole regiment (which would likely have been a full colonel's position, I think?) AustralianRupert (talk) 07:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Based on what I have been able to find only online, I have not so far been able to find more detailed write ups of who commanded and what the regiment did during the Great War other then the generalities I have provided thus far, to include images in the public domain of the regiment during the Great War. I have added that Middleton finished the Great War in command of the regiment, but have not so far found who commanded the regiment prior to him. I looked at the source that was linked above, and it did not contain information about the regimental commanding officers for the subject of this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 18:20, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, thanks for looking. I hope that there will eventually be more that can be added here, but if you have exhausted your sources, I'm happy with that. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@AustralianRupert: found a little more, and added it to the article. This should be it as the law of diminishing returns are coming to play with additional searches for new sources.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have began to make the changes requested above, but am not quiet finished. Still have to find sources to expand upon peacetime history Post-World War II.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 07:01, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, thanks for making a start. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:02, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Lineage changed to be non-battalion specific.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 17:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Back when the source was accessed globalsecurity.org was an often referenced military reference site. Since then multiple discussions about the source have been held at RSN, including but not limited to this one, and this one. Based on those discussions the opinion of the website are mixed. That said the item can be verified using other sources rather than the website which object has been raised.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 11:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This should be done.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. Your changes look good. If you are looking to take the article to ACR, my only suggestion would be to potentially ask for a copy edit at WP:GOCE first. Anyway, thanks for your efforts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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