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OWS?[edit]

Quote: (rather than by the Oestereichischer Waffenfabrik-Gessellschaft, Steyr (OWS) (Austrian Arms Manufacturer-Association, Steyr)) Correct: Österreichische Waffenfabriks-Gesellschaft (ÖWG). The translation would be more like "Austrian" "arms factory" "company" (not to confuse with an "association of manufacturers" like the Ferlach gunsmiths).

Umlaut[edit]

Quote: The word Schoenauer is often spelled Schönauer with an “umlaut” over the “o”

The whole letter "ö" is the "Umlaut", not only the dots on top, which are a symbol for an additional letter "e". The correct transcription for an "ö" is "oe", if no "Umlaut" is available: Mannlicher Schoenauer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:8B40:638:B43F:8C8F:85C1:1DFD (talk) 07:52, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hollow-point???[edit]

The classic African game round has a solid jacket. I bought a Mannlicher 1910 rifle of this calibre in Zimbabwe, and saw two other such rifles there. The ammunition for them was old Kynoch manufactured packets of 20. I got three packets with the rifle, consisting of mixed soft point and fully jacketed.

I do not have access to references on the history of the round, but for Africa I believe the reference to hollow point may be mistaken. ChrisPer 05:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

192.234.159.5 (talk) 19:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC) I have several versions of factory loaded 9.5x57 M-S caliber cartridges. One of them has a steel-jacketed hollow point bullet. Others are conventional copper/brass soft point bullets. I know from my books that it was also produced in "solids", but do not have one for my collection. I do not doubt that the ones you saw were not hollow-point, but they definitely do exist. 192.234.159.5 (talk) 19:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Origin?[edit]

Not sure about this, but I quess the cartridge was created by the steyr arms factory especially for the M1910, as they did with the 6,5x54MS / M1900/M1903, 9x56MS / M1905, 8x56MS / M1908, and finally the 9,5x57MS. I think when the M1910 got popular in Africa quite soon british ammmo-makers, having a huge market there, started producing it. They did the same with the 6,5x54 and called it .256 Gibbs, while the 8mm and 9mm versions never made it outside of continental Europe. I bought old Kynoch ammo with my rifle, and it´s marked 9,5mm Mannlicher Schoenauer, never saw a cartridge or a rifle marked .375 rimmless N.E., although the name is mentioned in every literature about the 9,5x57. Peter 92.248.110.7 (talk) 03:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

British sporting retailers imported the Mannlichers for sale to their customers, and on import they were all required to be submitted for British proof. The barrels were then stamped .375 R.N.E. at the proof house using hand stamps. ChrisPer (talk) 07:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

REGNO UNITO![edit]

Ma come può una cartuccia che porta il nome dei produttori Mannlicher–Schönauer essere del regno unito, lasciate queste cose a chi le sa e non occupatevi il tempo scrivendo scempiaggini che se mai qualche credulone ci casca