Talk:A Surge of Power (Jen Reid) 2020/Archive 1

Archive 1

Soapboxing

@SchroCat: No, I cannot emphasise how important this is, and as I already wrote, and please educate yourself: the very reason he had a statue is because 170 after his death a bunch of extremely powerful and wealthy group (SMV - Society of Merchant Venturers) were frightened by growing working class unrest. Colston had been a SMV-member for almost 40 years and left huge trusts in their care. Most gruesomely, they keep Colston’s hair and nails as relics in their meeting hall. Disgusting. During the Victorian era SMV were a key part of the project to launder Colston’s reputation building what local historian Rev HJ Wilkins called “the Cult of Colston.” This was an ideologically-driven campaign to represent him not as a bloodthirsty slave trader but as “one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city” as was written on the statue’s plaque. The aim was to inspire the workers of Bristol into adopting his values to make them more "productive employees" and not to revolt against exploitation. There should be no place for this sort of organisation, a typical elite body that uses philanthropy to launder reputations and assert undemocratic control.

It is recognized that Colston’s statue was erected around the same time as monuments were being erected in the US retrospectively glorifying the Confederate cause, and so paving the way for the introduction of Jim Crow (segregationist) legislation. In the same era, statues proliferated throughout Europe and the British Empire which championed colonialist figures such as Cecil Rhodes and King Leopold.

• The Slaver’s Protectors: "During the Victorian era SMV (Society of Merchant Venturers) were a key part of the project to launder Colston’s reputation building what local historian Rev HJ Wilkins called “the Cult of Colston.” This was an ideologically-driven campaign to represent him not as a bloodthirsty slave trader but as “one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city” as was written on the statue’s plaque. The aim was to inspire the workers of Bristol into adopting his values to make them more productive employees."

Stopp adorneding Colston’s toe-nail clippings! --217.234.68.159 (talk) 07:16, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Soapboxing 2

@SchroCat: No, I cannot emphasise how important this is, and as I already wrote, and please educate yourself: the very reason he had a statue is because 170 after his death a bunch of extremely powerful and wealthy group (SMV - Society of Merchant Venturers) were frightened by growing working class unrest. Colston had been a SMV-member for almost 40 years and left huge trusts in their care. Most gruesomely, they keep Colston’s hair and nails as relics in their meeting hall. Disgusting. During the Victorian era SMV were a key part of the project to launder Colston’s reputation building what local historian Rev HJ Wilkins called “the Cult of Colston.” This was an ideologically-driven campaign to represent him not as a bloodthirsty slave trader but as “one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city” as was written on the statue’s plaque. The aim was to inspire the workers of Bristol into adopting his values to make them more "productive employees" and not to revolt against exploitation. There should be no place for this sort of organisation, a typical elite body that uses philanthropy to launder reputations and assert undemocratic control.

It is recognized that Colston’s statue was erected around the same time as monuments were being erected in the US retrospectively glorifying the Confederate cause, and so paving the way for the introduction of Jim Crow (segregationist) legislation. In the same era, statues proliferated throughout Europe and the British Empire which championed colonialist figures such as Cecil Rhodes and King Leopold.

• The Slaver’s Protectors: "During the Victorian era SMV (Society of Merchant Venturers) were a key part of the project to launder Colston’s reputation building what local historian Rev HJ Wilkins called “the Cult of Colston.” This was an ideologically-driven campaign to represent him not as a bloodthirsty slave trader but as “one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city” as was written on the statue’s plaque. The aim was to inspire the workers of Bristol into adopting his values to make them more productive employees."

Stopp adorneding Colston’s toe-nail clippings! --217.234.68.159 (talk) 07:16, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

It is not "soapboxing", as we have once again, to time in a row "philanthropist" in the article. By your doing. Do you want to insult? --217.234.68.159 (talk) 08:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Wrong BBC link

Needs fixing-can't do as on phone. PamD 08:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC) Y Victuallers (talk) 08:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK

Will you make this into a DYK? Makes sense to me to do so! (And happy to help) Mujinga (talk) 00:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Anyone can propose a DYK or IntheNews. Good idea. Do it. Victuallers (talk) 07:14, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Done Template:Did you know nominations/A Surge of Power (Jen Reid) 2020 No Swan So Fine (talk) 10:48, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Nice one No Swan So Fine! I added a QPQ Mujinga (talk) 11:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)