Talk:Aargletschers

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Undo Move from Aar Galciers to Aare Glaciers

This move from Aar Galciers to Aare Glaciers has been unnecessary and is unjustified, since all glaciers in the Aar Glaciers system are always written without an e after Aar, even in the original, local German spelling where however the river is spelled like Aare!

So there is no reason to "translate" it to Aare Glaciers. Even the particulair glaciers are written by using its original, local spelling. There is no English translation. These objects are just referenced by their local spelling.

Please, undo this move. Thanks!

PS: I support however the move from Aar (river) to Aare!

-- ZH8000 (talk) 23:41, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to undo it myself, too, after I had seen, that the German term is Aargletscher. I didn't know, why the undoing did not work (Meanwhile I've understood it: "undo" reverts changes of the text, but does not revert moves). Because of the German term, my move must seem like nonesense to English readers. Nevertheless, seen with understanding of German grammar, my move was not totally wrong: In combined terms, the first part often looses an "-e" suffix. Example: Kirche (church) + Turm (tower) = Kirchturm. A boat for freight transport on River Elbe is called an Elbkahn. The loss of the suffix is part of the junction, like English "Lonsdale" for the dale (valley) of River Lune. If the words are written separately, there is no such "flexion".

Perhaps it would be better to call the lemma "Aargletschers" in en.wiki. The creation of an article "Lonsdale (Landschaft)" (Lonssdale (landscape)) has been proposed, but not yet done.--Ulamm (talk) 01:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Remember, the largest continental Norwegian glacier is called by its complete Norwegian name Jostedalsbreen in en.wiki as well as in de.wiki. This name contains the specification of a valley ("Joste-"), the genitive of the Norwegian word for valley ("-dal-s-"), the Norwegian term for "glacier" ("-bre-"), and the definite article (corresponding to English "the") that in Norwegian is the suffix "-en".--Ulamm (talk) 02:31, 14 May 2014 (UTC)+Ulamm (talk) 03:24, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]