Talk:Abdalla Hamdok

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Comment on File:Prime Minister Abdalla Hamdok.jpg[edit]

I request to change the used photo with the American flag in the background, with a one that has a Sudanese one! — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.Saleh (talk • contribs) 03:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This photo is perfect:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/krownprince/15654073655/in/photolist-pRidHD-Qr4Pmm-2bsSs1w-29NfHFJ-2bsSA19-Qr2dns-2bb8AQP-Qr553f-2cyXkKZ-NNEQT8-29NgcJ7-29Ng9Yh-rShcxi-29Ne8Lw-2cyUFm8-2cus7Nj-PH1C9y-2cyVaHt-2bsQv8s-29Ng5qE-Qr3T9J-29Ng3Nw-5TnT3Q-2cusvFy-2cyWVSP-Qr4tUW-Qr4sCY-rzUvbx-PKFqzR-2bb8CU8-Qr4G4A-8GhKwa-ZNXG6V-5TnrJN-rSf5q7-RbPiv5-29NfUpY-qVyFHr-NNEuV2-NNEtpX-2cusnxE-Qr4LY5-2cyWZx4-2bsSy4o-NNEmTv-29NfHcN-rQ4U8Q-rzUwFX-8GkVij-NNECBe — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.Saleh (talk • contribs) 03:25, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that showing Hamdok with a US flag is rather insulting - while many reports do suggest that Hamdok is begging on his knees to the IMF and US[1], that's up to readers to infer from the RS'd info in the article if they wish to, it's not a well-established fact, and even if it were, we generally don't put that sort of info in photos - see WP:BLP - e.g. bloodthirsty dictators' (Rabaa massacre, Khashoggi assassination, ...) main Wikipedia photos don't shown them in caricatures with blood dripping from their hands.

We do have File:Abdalla Hamdok May 2017.jpg, which does not have a US flag. Boud (talk) 19:50, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] (I don't blame him for this - he's presumably doing the best he can in a difficult situation - and in any case, my opinion here is irrelevant on this point. Boud (talk) 20:06, 12 December 2019 (UTC))[reply]

The guidelines: Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Images - "Images of living persons should not be used out of context to present a person in a false or disparaging light." - the US flag is not literally false, but it is disparaging.
Wikipedia:No_original_research#Original_images - "It is not acceptable for an editor to use photo manipulation to distort the facts or position illustrated by an image. Manipulated images should be prominently noted as such. Any manipulated image where the encyclopedic value is materially affected should be posted to Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Images of living persons must not present the subject in a false or disparaging light." Boud (talk) 19:58, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I restored the 2017 photo - a photo of him smiling would be nicer, but not a photo of him smiling in front of the flag of the country that destroyed half the Sudanese production of medicines by bombing the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory ... Boud (talk) 21:02, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Birth year[edit]

I have seen conflicting sources on whether he was born in 1956 or 1958. Can anyone confirm either definitively? HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 09:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In 2020, Hamdok passed a law to prohibit female genital mutilation[edit]

Please, where in the law of Sudan can we read this law? Is there an article resp. a paragraph in Criminal Law? If yes, which number, which paragraph? What exactly is prohibited, also FGM Type I or FGM Type IV according to the WHO-category of FGM? 87.143.182.16 (talk) 23:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The change is the result of an amendment to Sudan’s Criminal Law Article 141. The act is defined as removing or mutilating “the female genitalia by cutting, mutilating or modifying any natural part of it leading to the full or partial loss of its functions.” The punishment for committing female genital mutilation is three years imprisonment as well as fines. https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/05/sudan-outlaws-female-genital-mutilation/ 87.143.182.16 (talk) 00:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]