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Ada's dress

Am I the only one who thinks Ada's dress in RE4 might have come from the Resident Evil (film)? Even if that's not the original source should the similarity be mentioned in the article? TheHande 06:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Since the fact can't be confirmed, let's just leave at evening gown ;-) --ShadowJester07 06:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Ada's Trivia

I'm not sure, but maybe we should start making a Trivia Section for Ada (Like others characters have), I'm sure fans will have things to say abut her. (Alexlayer 01:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC))

there really isnt that much trivia....Unless you count her age(30)

False Name

Even though Capcom themselves seems to have forgotten about it, should it be mentioned that Ada Wong is merely the name that she used when she was working under cover as John's girlfriend? It's not her real name. This is all stated in her RE3 Epilogue. - Charagon 3-31-07

No, because it's not clear. Did Ada mean it was a false name, or was she simply stating via symbolism that the old Ada is dead? The latter is in context with the epilogue and makes the most sense. Parjay 21:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Fiancee?

I can't think of any sources for this, so can anyone pinpoint when in the series we're told John and Ada were engaged? All I can recall is that he was her "boyfriend". Parjay 17:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Go play Resident Evil 2 and you will get find more about her past. I played that game and if I remember correctly, she did say that to Leon in RE2. (Anonymous)

Boyfriend. She only refers to him as boyfriend. Parjay 17:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Rocket Launcher

Should it be noted that she, funnily, provides a rocket launcher for use against a final boss 2 times? She provides the weapon used to instant kill Saddler, though you can kill him by shooting his leg eyes and stabbing his main eye 4 more times(I believe) in Resident Evil 4. And they do have that funny look, like 'this seems familiar...'207.5.235.41

And that's one of the reasons why this article needs a trivia section. Flare13 21:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

You need to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_trivia_sections Geoff B 22:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Flare13 09:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Ada as a double agent?

From the article: "Ada's Report", in which Ada reveals several secrets; including how she supplies Wesker with a false virus sample instead of the one that she retrieves in the game and that she is actually working for another organization against Wesker's efforts.

As many times as I watch Ada's Report 5 the wording suggests that Wesker and Ada are both "The Organization" operatives as they have been since Wesker's second employment was established in CV, and even as far back as Resident Evil 2, and that Wesker had contacted another organization repeatedly the "Pharmaceutical Giant S." then judging from Wesker's loyalty history either Ada or "The Organization" decided not to give him an actual sample.

Did I miss a point where Ada claims she worked for "S" initially? If not I think Ada's and Wesker's article need to be corrected to suggest Wesker is at least working toward double (triple?) crossing "The Organization" rather than saying Ada is working for "The Organization" against Wesker's goal since the report introduces "S" rather than "The Organization." Wildodeelf 09:24, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Its confusing, it seems as two different organizations are in play...One Organization "The Organization" whom they both are employed and Corporation S who Ada is employed with??...Her report was by no means specific..it was all over the place... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.12.218 (talk) 18:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Wardrobe section

"Ada is a stunning Asian woman with neck-length black hair, beautiful eyes, and a very sleek figure."

Does anyone think that this sentence should be removed? The reason I think it should is that the article should stay neutral and some readers might not agree with that sentence. --Snkcube 05:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Eh, this sentence isn't really biased. She is by most standards a beautiful woman. She's certainly not ugly. I'll rework it a bit.--Kiyosuki 03:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Ada is most definitly VERY hot and attractive. Yet, because this is an opinion it is good we removed it. Maybe a sentence such as "Most players find Ada attractive" because this is true and includes the small percent of people who don't find her attractive. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.136.140.202 (talk) 22:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

She's not fucking hot.She's a video game and I agree it should be deleted.You stupid nerds with no lives just don't see that.Go get bent faggots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.151.129 (talk) 23:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

This is off topic, but shouldn't pointless insults like the one directly above my post be deleted? I get really tired of seeing that garbage put on talk pages that are intended to improve the article. Spartan198 (talk) 14:29, 24 May 2008 (UTC) Spartan198

Asian/Chinese

I don't understand why in the heading where it indicates her ethnic background, it states her as being "Asian (Chinese)" - isn't that redundant? It's like saying Jean Claude Van Damme is "European (Belgian)" martial artist, but you don't see that on his entry. Isn't "Chinese" sufficient? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.229.109.181 (talk) 16:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The A-class thread

Because apparently it's needed to be started, so be it. --Niemti (talk) 10:09, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

B assessment

Can Lead and "Character design" be expanded? --JDC808 ♫ 16:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Maybe before a GA. You can expand the lead as based on the current article. The dev would need some additional research. The lead will also be expanded once the film will get soon released, so the film version can be compared. --Niemti (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation of her name

This article should have the pronunciation for her name /'eɪdə/ because the name "Ada" can be pronounced either /'eɪdə/ or /'aːdə/.--Ephert (talk) 21:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Twelve days have past and Niemti has not responded yet to this discussion of the inclusion of the pronunciation /'eɪdə/ that they removed on this edit.--Ephert (talk) 08:26, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Don't you REALLY see "Eida Won"? --Niemti (talk) 13:35, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

The romaji word "Eida" is pronounced [e.i.da] in Japanese. I am discussing the English pronunciation /'eɪd.ə/.--Ephert (talk) 17:25, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

If you think it's such a serious business issue, you can re-add it. --Niemti (talk) 17:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Fact Checking

Not a very good editor and don't want to mess up the article, but Luis Sera is mentioned in the article as being killed by enforcer Mendes where as he is in fact killed by Osmund Saddler himself. May need to be re-written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.30.91 (talk) 20:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Clone

From what I see, Ada herself is not a product of cloning. The clone(s) of her is not the same thing as being a clone herself. Brandmeister^talk 00:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The clone is discussed here, because for most of the game the clone is Ada for everyone - and even to herself (the clone), apparently. --Niemti (talk) 00:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Ada Wong/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Harrias (talk · contribs) 15:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Overall this looks a reasonable article. However, I have a number of concerns about the referencing and the prose quality. A number of the references are currently displaying as dead links (#7, #8, #41, #58, #66) and a number of others I am unsure as to whether they are really reliable sources. To list a few, what makes (behindthevoiceactors.com, relyonhorror.com, http://projectumbrella.net, http://uk.ign.com/wikis/resident-evil-6/Ada_Wong (a Wiki), http://bloody-disgusting.com) reliable? A large number of the references have no access date listed, (#2, #3, #4, #5, #8 just to list the first five I came across).

The article assumes a fair bit of knowledge throughout; the main body beings "When Resident Evil 2 was still in development, Ada was known as a researcher named Linda who aided Leon across the game.." No explanation is given about who Leon is. In the following paragraph, the article states "reportedly "chose her as a foundation for Alice." In 2011, Li Bingbing was cast for the film version of Ada," The first bit implies that the character of Alice was based upon Ada, but the second implies that Ada herself was in the series; if both of these things are true, it needs to be made clearer. Most of the last paragraph of the In video games section appears to be unreferenced, along with most of the second and third paragraphs of the In other media section.

I will place this review on hold pending the improvements particularly to the referencing. If these can be completed within a week then I will continue with a more detailed review. Harrias ^talk 15:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

ROH is for citing an interview with Cahill, Bloody Disgusting is a major horror film website (it's, like, right here on Wikipedia). Access dates are only needed for the content that is changing, like the Metacritic scores (even as editors actually don't update the access dates when they update the scores, so it's actually rather completely worthless/misleading). The sources for the plot are the games and the films themselves (you can check in their own Wikipedia articles, and even see in walkthroughs/LPs on YouTube in the case of games; to see the films legally you've got to pay, I guess). Leon is explained in the intro ("the protagonist Leon S. Kennedy", with a link to his article) and then explained more in the plot section. Alice is in the films since the first one and Ada was only added in the latest one (in 2012, that is 10 years later). --Niemti (talk) 15:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:CITE states that access dates are required on any occasion a publication date is not provided "the date you retrieved (or accessed) the webpage (required if the publication date is unknown)", and I would expect to see it on all online references for a Good article. If the film is used as the reference for the information, I would like to see that cited explicitly, but for the video games plots, Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines states that "plot sections should also be sourced", and recommends not overusing the game itself as source: for the limited information that has no reference, I think citing the game would be acceptable. The lead should stand-alone from the article, per MOS:LEAD, and so the body of the article should be readable without having read the lead, and vice-versa. Harrias ^talk 16:30, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

"Perfect formatting" of refs is "not required" for a GA at all. Good luck finding spoiler/ending sources for the films and games from the late 2012. Citing the game like what - "A sound of machine gun fire and music" for Carla silently destroying the mystery coccoon? Seriously. --Niemti (talk) 16:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm merely quoting our guidelines; I don't expect everything to be perfect, that's what Featured status is for. However, I would expect the majority of the article to meet most of the guidelines, and that currently is not the case. If you are not interesting in meeting those guidelines, then I'm not sure we can go any further with this review. If you are happy to work with me in improving what elements we can, then I am more than happy to work with you to do that. Harrias ^talk 16:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

It is really not required, at all,[1][2] (quote: "Perfectly formatted citations are not required") and (sensibly) referencing that is impossible (and also it's not containing any "direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged", maybe except the clone thing). I am interested. --Niemti (talk) 17:09, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Quite surprisingly, there was an Ada-centered RE6 detailed spoiler article out there.[3] --Niemti (talk) 11:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm away over the weekend, so I'll have another look back over things on Tuesday or Wednesday. Regards, Harrias ^talk 12:05, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm back, but a little busy at present. If I don't get to this in the next couple of days, ping me; I may have to step aside and let someone else complete the review. Hopefully time will free up a little though! Apologies for the delay. Harrias ^talk 12:44, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Should a new subpage be started or are you able to finish the review? Wizardman 18:57, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll just wrap up this review then. Here's what I found:

In the second lead paragraph, I would split the sentence in two around "is a mysterious", since it gets rather long-winded.
" to show the answer to some of the game's unanswered mysteries" adding unanswered sounds a bit redundant, since if they were answered they wouldn't be mysteries.
"truth about herself, the vengenful Carla conspired" fix typo

The prose is alright, and if I were to do a FA review I would suggest a lot of prose tightening, but it does fit GA guidelines so I'll put it on hold. Wizardman 04:13, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

They were "unanswered" prior to the game's release. Where's the typo? --Niemti (talk) 12:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

vengenful. Wizardman 14:35, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Fixed, so passing. Wizardman 18:52, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --Niemti (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Damnation Carla may have been posing as ada wong

Here show's that she was changed into 'ada wong' copy in April 30 of 2009 While here it claims ada wong was claimed to be seen around 2011 in the movie 'damnation'. Which mean's no real concrete proof to tell if it was the real ada wong or carla posing since she already by then believed she was the real 'ada wong' since she was changed to look, act like her. Plus Carla was already known to be running the black market, was given a submarine by Simmons was already running the black market for the B.O.W projects which the 'real' ada wong would find later, it's clearly possible that Carla was trying to sell off the B.O.W since in resident evil 6 the main plot was to frame 'ada wong' into being blamed for a virus but the same situation seem's similar to the plot in 'damnation' while ada wong teased carla near the end of the first level, I remember hear saying something about events that ada wong didn't previously know about.So I'm saying that this needs to mentioned that it's possible that it might not have been 'Ada wong' that was involved, that Carla was posing as her since Damnation is a prequel to resident evil 6. --Ronnie42 (talk) 20:34, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Change lead image

I think that the lead image should be Ada on the ground, as it's her most notable outfit; the current lead image doesn't really show much different about her. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 00:12, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

"one of the most attractive female characters in video games" according to what?

I noticed that the introduction claims that Ada is widely regarded as one of the most attractive female characters in any video game ever created. There is no citation on this claim, and even if it is true, this does not really suit the encyclopedic style of Wikipedia, as widely held opinions on the attractiveness of someone, character or real person, do not really belong on a Wikipedia page unless there is some indicated significance to this fact, which the article does not provide. Also, mentioning that she is a popular female character in the series does not really seem impartial either, and again, has no citation.

On a separate note, the sentence, "Ada is voiced by Sally Cahill in Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 4 and Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles,[49] by an unnamed actress in Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, and by Courtenay Taylor in Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City, Resident Evil: Damnation and Resident Evil 6.", does not really serve any purpose as it does not fit within the paragraph that it starts, and the information contained within it is already at the top of the page under the "Voiced by" section. Also, the English actress for The Umbrella Chronicles is listed at the top of the page, and seeing as all the other actresses in this sentence are English ones, I don't see why that actress would be named at the top of the article and left unnamed in this sentence.

Thanks for reading, I am not really completely versed in the standards of Wikipedia, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.232.122.34 (talk) 23:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I deleted that part, along with the horrible "most attractive Asian women" bit. Seriously, Wikipedia, I can't believe you let that stand for so long. 2601:197:200:45CC:D94C:DF79:8CF:874E (talk) 14:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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For creation

I heard this vid had some creation info about Ada and what's happening to her in RE6. Feel free to use it.Tintor2 (talk) 19:40, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

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Good article nom

This article looks pretty good so can it be nominated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.231.165.56 (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC)