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Boundaries[edit]

Kythera is not considered part of the Aegean but of the Ionian Islands - it is one of the Eftanisa, one of the 7 (seven/efta) islands. Also, southern Crete is not in the Aegean but the Lybian Sea. This needs to be taken into consideration. Politis 17:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

No real argument; actually, however, this depends on what map you look at: while Kythera is included among the Ionian Islands [1], the International Hydrographic Organisation (text) (map) indicates that the southern limit of the Aegean Sea (h) is formed by the islands of Kythera, Antikythera, Crete, Karpathos, and Rhodes; the first two islands do not form any part of the border/definition of the Ionian Sea (f). This mismatch seems rather odd.

As such, if we edit the introduction, we should aim for precision or let it be. I think my recent edit is sufficient (i.e., vague) at explaining the southern boundary; details about which islands are Aegean/Ionian can be included or noted in the list below.

Speaking of which, this website indicates Crete is an island that 'lies in the Aegean' (hence the list already in the article), while I acknowledge that other sources may not or avoid the issue. However, in various sources, Rhodes and Karpathos are clearly included among the Dodecanese and, thus, among the Aegean Islands.

And then there's the eponymous administrative region (mybad in quoting 'prefecture' in my prior edit summary), which does not fully correspond with other reckonings -- e.g., Sporades in Central Greece admin region, yet they are Aegean Islands as well.

In all of the above, I think maps that clearly indicate the various island groups would prove helpful. Thoughts? Psychlopaedist 00:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flag[edit]

what the fuck is the turkish flag at the bottom of the article?????? why do you have this???? what is the meaning????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.100.211.226 (talk) 15:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, please be civil. In any case, I take you are referring to the navigational templates at the bottom, correct? Whether you like it or not, Turkey has shores and islands in the Aegean and therefore is part of the template. --17:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimon (talk • contribs)

Question[edit]

Is Hekatonisa/Moshonisi considered an Aegean island? If so, it should probably be added, as well as the other Ayvalık Islands. Khoi khoi 01:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of course they are considered Aegean Islands. But they are rather small to be added here. Cunda Island is listed in the List of Aegean Islands; if we add it here, we'll have to add Chryse, Koufonisi and some dozens of other small Greek islands that do not belong in one of the groups mentioned here. Hectorian 12:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ionian not Aegean[edit]

The map appears to include the Ionian islands as part of the Aegean Sea. In fact, the Ionian islands belong to the Ionian Sea. Politis (talk) 17:17, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which islands are you referring to? --Kimon^talk 17:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is this?[edit]

For example,Rhodos or Mitilini. But imperialism and its dump headed servants have always denied this natural right of Turkey. Rhodos originally belongs to Turkey... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.191.197.232 (talk) 13:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

I propose to remove the infobox because it contains misleading information. The box indicates the Aegean Islands are a region in Greece and Turkey, but this is the case in neither countries. In Turkey, the Aegean Region is larger than just the coastal islands that belong to Turkey. In Greece, the Aegean are divided in a northern and southern region. — 37 ^(talk) 05:49, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is the standard Template:Infobox settlement which is standard for any settlement irrespective of if the settlement is a region or not. As such the infobox should remain and the optional parameter "type" should be removed if the descriptor "region" is disputed for any or both of the two countries. I can see the case for Turkey but the Aegean is a region of Greece, although subdivided in North and South Aegean. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 06:10, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Greek Aegean is indeed divided in the regions of North and South Aegean, this is exactly my point. It would be a good idea to add a correct map, but keeping this map that shows all the islands as one political subdivision is clearly not the way to go. Is there any possibility someone disagrees with removing a faulty map? I hope not! — 37 ^(talk) 06:40, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have modified the infobox to say "Regions of Greece" which is correct as there are two. And again, the maps need not be removed. The descriptor "region" can be removed if warranted, as I did in the case of Turkey. The maps are not faulty. The maps depict the correct islands. The descriptor "region" is disputed. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις}

Thank you. It seems like we are working towards a solution here. I still think it is misleading to present two regions as one. — 37 ^(talk) 06:52, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you also. But plural "regions" indicates a number greater than one, so it does not represent "one" region but two. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 06:56, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Plural is indeed more than one. But, when I look at a map of administrative divisions of a country, I expect to see lines indicating the boundaries, or a colour code suggesting the location of the divisions. A map of the regions of a country is not very useful if you cannot distinguish the regions. Don't you think? — 37 ^(talk) 07:19, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally yes. But I don't see this as a compelling reason to remove the region parameter. In this case we have to wait for wider input or go to WP:3O if the input is not forthcoming. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 07:24, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Removing of the region parameter is indeed not needed. Maybe in the future someone will colour code the islands. Thanks again for the adjustments! — 37 ^(talk) 07:33, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you also for your great suggestions. All the best. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 07:43, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Map corrected regarding Crete and Euboea[edit]

Hello. I just realized that the map I made several years ago about the Aegean Islands (Greece), were missing the 2 largest ones: Crete and Euboea, even though these too are considered to be Aegean islands. This has now been corrected and these 2 aforementioned islands will be displayed with a blue color instead of white. I don't know how comes I haven't realized this mistake sooner. At least better late than never. --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ ^{(talk ✉ | contribs ✎)} 06:22, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]