Talk:Africa (Italian journal)

Notability and merging?

Thank you for your interest in this journal.

• Africa: Rivista ... is a well-known academic journal on Africa, available in many university libraries.
• According to the publisher is it indexed by Scopus and other services. The highly selective JSTOR provides access to the journal's archive, up to 2021.
• Within Wikipedia it is cited 66 times, i.e., in 1140s, 1143, Abdelhafid Palace, Abu Abdallah Muhammad VI ibn al-Hasan, Ali Radai, André Muhirwa, Anti-Amhara sentiment, Asenath_Bole_Odaga, Awjila, Babs Fafunwa, Badme, Banu Khurman, Brahim Metiba, Britannia Inferior, Béni Abbès, Culture of France, Cécile Laborde, David Gian Maillu, Deim Zubeir, East African campaign (World War II), Edo literature, Eritrean–Ethiopian border conflict, Eritrean–Ethiopian War, Eritrea–Italy relations, Ethiopian Empire, Ethiopian nationality law, First Barbary War, France–Mali relations, French West Africa in World War II, Gherardo Pantano, Giotto_Dainelli, Hamid Ferej, Harun el-Raschid Bey, Horn of Africa, Institute of Ethiopian Studies, Jomo Kenyatta, Kofi Anyidoho, Kritarchy, Kunama people, List of Moroccan royal residences, Louis Joachim Munoz, Louis Rwagasore, Machbuba, Majeerteen Sultanate, Marcello_Serrazanetti, Mauritania–Senegal Border War, Mendoub, Mohamed Haji Mukhtar, Nyankapon-Nyame-Odomankoma, Ondo Kingdom, Pasquale Stanislao Mancini, Pierre Ngendandumwe, Rebeka_Njau, Religion in Somalia, Società Geografica Italiana, Somali mythology, Tangier International Zone, First Barbary War, Jomo Kenyatta, Kunama people, Tangier International Zone, Tunisian navy (1705–1881), Usman Lawal-Osula, Utica National Museum, Vittorino Veronese, Zagwe dynasty
• Merging this journal article with an institutional article? The problem is that

1. the publishing institute has changed during the lifetime of the journal, so the correspondence journal - institute is insecure. Publisher was IsIAO, but is currently Centro Studi per i Popoli Extraeuropei “Cesare Bonacossa”, University of Pavia, which lacks a Wikipedia article.
2. journal and publishing institutes are and were separate entities, on Wikidata and
3. idem on the Italian Wikipedia.

So i think it is best not to merge the articles of the journal and of any publishing institutes. Thank you, Hansmuller (talk) 13:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Going through this point for point:

• "well-known": any evidence?

• "indexed by Scopus and other services: NOT in Scopus, only in some EBSCO and MLA databases (see here).

• Cited in WP: absolutely trivial.

• That is not a reason why merging to the current publisher should not be done.

• Journal and publisher articles have separate Wikidata entries: absolutely trivial

• Separate entries on Italian WP: also absolutely trivial.

In short: no notability, so deletion or merging would be the only options. --Randykitty (talk) 17:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Going through this point-by-point:

• "available in many university libraries": in well over 100 univ. libraries, incl. Cambridge, Frankfurt, Berlin, Madrid, Paris, London, Oxford, Princeton etc.; "well-known": see https://www.aegis-eu.org/african-studies-journals ; ref. in Brill's African Studies Companion ;

• "highly selective JSTOR provides access": https://www.jstor.org/journal/africa2

• "within WP cited 66 times": not trivial, if you care to take a look at the citations;

• Merging is a bad idea, mainly because they journal and institute are not connected any more. This journal merits a separate article;

• Several studies have shown the limitations of bibliometrical studies in the field of humanities. Luckily, the focus of evaluations of researchers, journals and scientific organisations is gradually shifting away from only measuring quantity. Vysotsky (talk) 21:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose merge, withdrawing support: The journal is in Scopus, meeting WP:NJournals. I probably missed that before because the infobox presented an outdated ISSN. If Headbomb agrees, the merge template can be removed. --Randykitty (talk) 16:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  I'll oppose merge solely on the grounds that the Italian Institute for Africa and the Orient is no longuer associated with it. Passing WP:NJOURNALS is another. I'll remove the merge template. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)