Talk:Air Greenland/Archives/2013
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Zurich?
As far as I know, Air greenland is only offering services from Zurich as a subcharter of other airlines... --79.193.251.156 (talk) 19:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
International?
As Greenland is governed by Denmark, can flights to Copenhagen really be considered "international"? Jpatokal 12:32, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Greenland is self-governing Twrist 15:17, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- but an integral part of the kingdom of Denmark... so it is not an "international" flight, it is an intercontinental flight..
WikiWeakness #2286
- WikiWeakness #2286 - lack of credible editing allows misinformation to be presented as fact
Greenland is not a nation; therefore it can’t possess a national airline. Wikipedia is strewn with erroneous information about territories, provinces, and even cities that supposedly have “national’ airlines. The original author obviously did not pay attention in Geography class.
- Of course Kalaallit Nunaat is a nation by any relevant definition of that word. --Bjarki 01:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- NPOV.....
- It's not POVy. It just requires other editors to know the difference between a nation and a state/country. Of course, those edits were off before the full Greenlandization of the island in 2009, but it's happened now. — LlywelynII 12:24, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- NPOV.....
Thule AFB Greenland
Danish lady doing research for College credits lost your address, please write back. Ron —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.226.101 (talk) 05:16, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Assessment comments
This article is coming around good. The most "difficult" bit—a comprehensive, referenced history section—is mostly done. What is left is a description of the fleet, service and destinations, and a long lead. Note that all the references need proper formatting, add a copyedit and the article will could be a GA candidate. If you're interested, we could collaborate to get it up to GA standards. I love writing about airlines, and I love writing about the Arctic, so this must surely be a good combo. Arsenikk (talk) 21:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Absolutely! The lead I think would be most problematic for me to expand − right now I don't quite know of where to start improving it... I will see what I can do about the fleet description. I have created a translation redirect to Kalaallit Nunaata Radioa, which already exists. There is a destinations sub-article, which needs a lot more work beyond the bare table that is there today. I will try to update that article. One thing to note about the references is that the 'news archive' from airgreenland.dk, albeit primary, is not a reliable source − in the sense of a high linkrot risk. They tend to delete old and/or inconvenient press releases without notice, which has already bitten me in this article and elsewhere. Fortunately, replacements can mostly be found in local press (KNR & Sermitsiaq). I think the Greenland-specific information about booking and flight scheduling is missing as of now, and would be good to add. Also, would it make sense to write about catering? And what do you think of the subsidiary section? It's quite barebone now. − Algkalv (talk) 22:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have upgraded the remaining references, but don't quite know how to fit the SAS press release within the cite news template... − Algkalv (talk) 23:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Just use a {{cite web}} tempalte, with SAS as the publisher. Arsenikk (talk) 19:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Added. − Algkalv (talk) 20:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- There is a Template:Cite press release. Geschichte (talk) 14:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I was concerned with the domain name mismatch between SAS and the archive site they use. − Algkalv (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- There is a Template:Cite press release. Geschichte (talk) 14:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Added. − Algkalv (talk) 20:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Just use a {{cite web}} tempalte, with SAS as the publisher. Arsenikk (talk) 19:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Added a new section with service information, including details on the Greenland-specific settlement flights. − Algkalv (talk) 17:17, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- To see what I've gotten through GA before, take a look at Color Air, Braathens Helikopter, History of Braathens SAFE (1946–93) and Bergen Air Transport. Personally I prefer having the service, fleet and destination sections before the history section, but this is more taste than anything else. Arsenikk (talk) 19:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed − I rather prefer the Lufthansa article and its structure... Could you specify what sort of description would be desirable for the fleet? − Algkalv (talk) 20:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- To see what I've gotten through GA before, take a look at Color Air, Braathens Helikopter, History of Braathens SAFE (1946–93) and Bergen Air Transport. Personally I prefer having the service, fleet and destination sections before the history section, but this is more taste than anything else. Arsenikk (talk) 19:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Expanded on everything apart from the lead (will need help there), and the fleet description (I don't know what the requirement is exactly, see above).
- Could I ask you to copyedit the article? There is nothing like another pair of eyes, especially those of yours ;) I have edited this article so many times that I just don't see the little things anymore. − Algkalv (talk) 21:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- All done. − Algkalv (talk) 04:47, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- My main concern now is that all claims need referencing. Arsenikk (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- That's somewhat vague. Examples would help. − Algkalv (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- To get the article up to GA standards, everything needs to referenced from a reliable source. Right now, there are several things that are not referenced, such as "The Dash-7 machines remain in active service in Greenland, serving all airports with the exception of Nerlerit Inaat Airport near Ittoqqortoormiit, the operation of which is handed to Air Iceland on a government contract." Another thing is that some of the references are in the "wrong place", i.e. they should be at the end of the claim. For instance ref 10 at "which in 1972[10] allowed the airline..." how can the reference state a year but not what happened in the year? I can look at this a bit later today when I have some more time. Arsenikk (talk) 13:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- If you think they are in the wrong place, move them. − Algkalv (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm in the process. Do you understand Greenlandic? I can't find a translate tool from Greenlandic, and I'm having difficulty finding a source that states that Air Iceland serves Ittoqqortoormiit. Arsenikk (talk) 22:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't serve Ittoqqortoormiit (or Illoqqortoormiut as rendered in west Greenlandic). It operates flights to Nerlerit Inaat Airport (KUS-CNP, RKV-CNP), which serves Ittoqqortoormiit, with Air Greenland providing helicopter flights between the airport and the heliport in town (OBY). See the airline's booking system and destination description Algkalv (talk) 22:17, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm in the process. Do you understand Greenlandic? I can't find a translate tool from Greenlandic, and I'm having difficulty finding a source that states that Air Iceland serves Ittoqqortoormiit. Arsenikk (talk) 22:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- If you think they are in the wrong place, move them. − Algkalv (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- To get the article up to GA standards, everything needs to referenced from a reliable source. Right now, there are several things that are not referenced, such as "The Dash-7 machines remain in active service in Greenland, serving all airports with the exception of Nerlerit Inaat Airport near Ittoqqortoormiit, the operation of which is handed to Air Iceland on a government contract." Another thing is that some of the references are in the "wrong place", i.e. they should be at the end of the claim. For instance ref 10 at "which in 1972[10] allowed the airline..." how can the reference state a year but not what happened in the year? I can look at this a bit later today when I have some more time. Arsenikk (talk) 13:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- That's somewhat vague. Examples would help. − Algkalv (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Wp:EngVar
Per this edit, it's American. — LlywelynII 12:24, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
High Importance?
Really? Or it just makes the project happy since it's GA'd? — LlywelynII 12:24, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Article to do list
- The stats on # of annual passengers could probably better be turned into a graph somewhere in the article, rather than left as appendices to each section.
- More details in the "incidents" section about the cause and resolution (for the stranded Americans and the strikers) would be nice.
- More details on when ownership shifted: did Denmark buy its share from the mining company? did Home Rule? What happened to KGH's share? &c.
- 2011 stats & more details on subsidiaries from the newest annual report.
More details on history from 50th anniversary pages.- Double check and source: was the anglicized name "Greenlandair" ever official for anything other than the charter service? When?
- Include more images of the airline's "Fartplans", pending copyright
- Check the archives of the Scandinavian magazine Travel People for more background and details.