Talk:Alex Fergusson (politician)

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Requested move 2009

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The result of the move request was moved Aervanath (talk) 07:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Fergusson (Scottish politician) → Alex Fergusson (politician) — There are no other politicians by this name, so there is no need to specify 'Scottish' in the title. The article was moved from this title after a user mistakenly thought there was an MEP by this name, having confused him with Adam Fergusson (MEP). — Robofish (talk) 21:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe - To be consistent, shouldn't they both be (politician), or perhaps Alex should be (MSP). Is there a Wikipedia standard/guideline for this? Greyskinnedboy (talk) 10:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Consistency is not needed here. The other Alex Fergusson is a musician so "politician" as a disambiguator is all that is needed. (WP:QUALIFIER says "limit [a disambiguator] to a single, recognisable and highly applicable word regarding the person at hand." You'll see that "politician" is #12 in the list of most common disambiguators.) On the other hand, several of the Adam Fergussons are politicians so further disambiguation is needed (e.g., "MEP", "d.1862"). — AjaxSmack 18:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. — AjaxSmack 18:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved from WP:RM 199.125.109.102 (talk) 16:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is the standard with the titles? Should they both be (politician), or perhaps Alex should be (MSP) to conform? Greyskinnedboy (talk) 10:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 2014

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The result of the move request was: no consensus, so not moved. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:00, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

– There are only two articles with subjects named Alex Fergusson (two 's): Alex Fergusson (politician) and Alex Fergusson (musician). I think the politician is clearly the primary topic out of the two. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 17:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Delete the DAB page per WP:TWODABS. — AjaxSmack 02:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The dab page should probably be merged into Alex Ferguson (disambiguation) as confusion spellings. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 04:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the spelling Alex Fergusson (Google Books) as a common Scots variant of the Alex Ferguson is common enough for a minor politician to be recognizably titled as a (politician) when his name stands in the shadow of one of Scotland's most famous citizens. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:18, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - What evidence is there that the primary topic is clearly for the politician? The numbers of page views have been very similar for both articles in the past 90 days. If the primary topic were for the politician, the number of page views for the article on the politician should be substantially greater (ie, by orders of magnitude) than those for the musician. Dezastru (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'm not really willing to call a misspelling a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC unless it's a very common, widespread error. That doesn't seem to be the case here. --BDD (talk) 18:36, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No evidence that the politician is the primary topic. "I think" just doesn't cut it. You think? Why do you think this? --B2C 23:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support 10+-year member of a major subnational legislature versus a musician who spent a few years in a couple of bands. While WP:GHITS reminds us that lots of search-engine results are not necessarily indicative of notability, it observes that "The search-engine test may, however, be useful as a negative test of popular culture topics which one would expect to see sourced via the Internet". Looking for <Alex Fergusson>, without any other qualifications, returns primarily stuff about the politician. I have to look through just five non-Wikipedia and non-politician hits before I find a third Alex Fergusson, a London architect. What kind of pop culture figure competes against architects for Google hits if he's on par with a longtime member of a major subnational legislature? Nyttend (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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