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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 13:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

Johnson524 04:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: This is a fun one! Approving both hooks — good work here! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 15:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Alex Thach/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Johnson524 (talk · contribs) 04:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: LunaEclipse (talk · contribs) 23:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! This is my first GA review, so I might do some missteps here and there. Trying to step out my comfort zone to see what works and what doesn't for me. I will start adding comments in a few days. lunaeclipse ⚧ (talk) 23:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LunaEclipse: Thank you so much for taking up this review! I hope you at very least find the article an interesting read. Cheers from North Carolina 😁 Johnson524 00:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Prose & formatting

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  • 1a.
    • Prose is well-written, and does not have any issues with spelling or grammar. Only issue is that "Summoning Satan" is not title case for some reason.
      •  Done
  • 1b.
    • No MOS issues with the lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and/or lists.
      • Green tickY

Verifiability

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  • 2a.
    • No issues with ref formatting.
  • 2b.
    • Here's where this becomes a bit tricky. You've cited aGameScout's YouTube video on Thach to "stay true to the original source". However, the use of this video violates Wikipedia's guideline on self-published sources: "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer." The best course of action would be to rather rely on the more reliable sources that reference the video.
      •  On hold This is taking a while, sorry, I should have this done by the end of the day
    • Same thing for maxout.gg. It's community run so that guideline also applies to that website.
      •  Done
    • Thatch's videos, however, should be fine per WP:SELFSOURCE as they're not third party sources and contain uncontroversial self descriptions.
      • Green tickY
    • CTM website gets a pass as it's just verifying his positions in the Tetris tournaments Thach participated in.
      • Green tickY
    • Tetris Interest is a fan blog, making it unreliable. Either find another source to replace it or remove the source and its supporting statements altogether.
      •  Done
    • I'd recommend using the original GamesRadar source as the Inkl URL leads a mirror page.
      •  Done
  • 2c.
    • Original research in the part about him mastering rolling, the technique itself, Thach's ethnicity, and the history of hypertapping.
      •  Partly done Removed the information about mastering rolling and Thach's ethnicity since neither were explicitly said, but the history of hypertapping and how its performed are well cited and supported explicitly by the article. I don't see what needs to be done here?
  • 2d.

Broadness

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  • 3a.
    • Covers his life, career, and playing style. IMO, I think it's enough to pass.
  • 3b.
    • Article does not steer off-topic and focuses on Thach specifically. Pass.

Neutrality

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  • 4.
    • No bias towards any of the parties mentioned in the article, pass.

Stability

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  • 5.
    • No edit disputes in the last 14 days, pass.

Media

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  • 6a.
    • All images in the article are freely licensed. Pass.
  • 6b.
    • Images are used and captioned appropriately. Pass.

@Johnson524: I will put this article on hold for the time being. The article is in good shape, but has some issues with verifiability.lunaeclipse ⚧ (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not the nominator but tried to remove a bit of YouTube research from the article where possible. However I'm not familiar enough with the topic to do a more comprehensive removal of the YouTube/Maxout.gg sources. The input of the original nominator @Johnson524 would be useful at this point. StewdioMACK (talk) 08:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LunaEclipse: OK, minus a little more removal of the aGameScout source, all of your listed improvements are complete 🙂 I did ask for clarification on one of the things you said above if you could take a look at that. Sorry for the three day delay, life got really busy for a moment, but I should respond quickly to any new feedback now its the weekend. Thank you for your review and patience, and thank you @StewdioMACK: for helping out a bit too. Cheers! Johnson524 15:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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