Talk:Alexa Demie

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Age

There's been a great deal of back-and-forth on her age, including material about her high school. If someone can find some verifying information from her early life, that would help. In the meantime, 1994 is well referenced with the NYTimes and People refs. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 21:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Why is the picture used on Alexa's page up for (potential) deletion? I agree with your point of view in regards to her age, and I don't think the birthindex should be used, but what does it have to with said picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.15.82 (talk) 22:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm unable to find any reliable sources for her day of birth. Everything I'm finding could be WP:CIRCULAR. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 23:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I've restored the 94/95 date. The new sources were either unreliable (meaww.com) or primary (CA birth index). --Hipal (talk) 17:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

imdb states her age as 1990 and from my sources that isnt under her control? she also performs 7-8 years ago in azelia banks video, meaning she would have been 17-18 then. This is a icky cituation since she constantly states her age differently than various sources have stated. Lst76 (talk) 17:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

IMDB is not reliable per WP:CITEIMDB.

We need better references. The New York Times is highly reputable. Looking at it closer, I see the author is freelancer, so that drops it quite a bit as far as quality. --Hipal (talk) 18:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hipal - I found this. She is said have to made a sunglasses collection called Mainframe was she was in high school. This is talked about on various sources, supposedly having been worn by famous celebrities. [1][2] [3] In 2010, she made a website for her fashion brand called "The Sosiety". The earliest archives are in early 2010 and according to their website archive, [4] Demie describes herself as being 19 years old - "The Sosiety presents our first project involving two friends from opposite sides of the coasts an opportunity to mix their creative talent into a product. Alexa Demie, 19 year old designer/founder of MainFrames from Los Angeles". The primary source (a California birth index) states that she was born in December 1990, and I know we can't use that as a source, but is her website's archive enough to say that she was born circa 1990 or 1991, as the source doesn't give a specific birth date, other than saying that in early 2010 she was 19? Clear Looking Glass (talk) 04:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Without better references connecting the dots far more clearly, I'm afraid that would be WP:SYN.

I don't see the verification for the relationships you describe between: Mainframe/Demie and Sosiety. Where's the verification that Sosiety = Demie?

We really need something of similar quality to the freelancer-authored NYTimes ref, or more reason to reject that ref as reliable. If Demie is keeping her age private, then we need to be extra-careful. --Hipal (talk) 17:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

http://www.forthedmvonly.com/2010/03/mainframes-x-rathemc.html has info similar to what's on the Sosiety archive, but is of very poor quality. --Hipal (talk) 17:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding this: [5] Alexa was 18 in 2009, according to the blog post. Nwodeltsihw (talk) 03:55, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

We can't use it, but interesting. Thanks. It links https://twitter.com/LexDemie as her twitter at the time. I don't know what social media websites are archived, but it might be worth taking a look if there is anything we could use. It seems like it would be useful to look into her other early professional work. --Hipal (talk) 21:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

How about this: [6], a site owned & operated by Black Sands Media[7]? Nwodeltsihw (talk) 23:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

That doesn't appear reliable, and it's not used anywhere in Wikipedia. --Hipal (talk) 00:04, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

How about the California Birth Index[8]? Nwodeltsihw (talk) 21:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Nwodeltsihw - The California Birth Index has already been said to not be usable as its a primary source. Also, as mentioned website "Celeb Answers" is dubious and not reliable at all. A personal anecdote, but I saw an answer there talking about another notable person's birthplace and family, and even though reliable sources and the actual person stated something else, that website claimed that "their research" found different info about that person's birthplace and family. As far as we know, no non-primary source has given out her exact birth date, though it seems likely that we at least know that she was born on December 11. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 18:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

She was born in 1990, you can literally look it up on imdb, they’re very reliable unlike Wikipedia Lutomlison1D (talk) 22:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

IMDB is not reliable per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#IMDb. --Hipal (talk) 02:45, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hipal I have found two social media posts from Alexa's mother (Rose Mendez) and her younger sister wishing her a happy birthday on December 11 (unfortunately, no specific age was given). Alexia Demie's official Instagram account even commented on her sister, "Falize Romé's" post. Here's the Instagram posts: the most funny loving beautiful big sister!!! U are my best friend and i love you more than words can say. Thank you for being the best sister in the world and making me laugh more than anyone & always doing my makeup. you are so special & im so lucky to have you. Happy birthday i love you And Alexa's official Instagram account commented saying: "love u sooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhh". Her mother, Rose also gave her a birthday wish post on December 11: Happiest of birthdays to my beautiful angel Alexa💗🎂🎉🎊🙌🏼 you have brought so much light & joy to me & and our entire family 💗 you are truly a gift to the world 🌎 I love 💗 you more then words can say, you’ve made me proud from the day you were born!! I can’t wAit to see all the amazing thing you’ll accomplish. Thank you for being a wonderful daughter & sister 💗🎉🎊😘😘😘mama loves you Clear Looking Glass (talk) 08:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Those are primary sources, so shouldn't be used.

Focusing on the day and month, https://www.lofficielusa.com/pop-culture/alexa-demie-age-euphoria-actress-birthday might be usable. --Hipal (talk) 16:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)--Hipal (talk) 16:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Published Dec 11, 2020. Looking over this again, It's poor. It's churnalism. I don't think it should be used. --Hipal (talk) 20:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

• Polkinghorn, Alexandra (January 14, 2019). "WSJ.'s Young Hollywood Portfolio: 10 Rising Stars on Progress, Inclusion and Their Responsibilities for the Future" – via www.wsj.com.

This is a brief profile, published Jan. 14, 2019, giving Demie's age as 28. It doesn't look any better than the NYTimes ref. --Hipal (talk) 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

This is a ref for 1990/91. The author was a managing editor for WSJ Magazine at the time. --Hipal (talk) 20:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oswaks, Molly (September 8, 2019). "Alexa Demie, a Breakout Star of 'Euphoria,' Has Hidden Talents". Archived from the original on July 16, 2020. Retrieved July 26, 2020 – via NYTimes.com. --Hipal (talk) 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• "'Euphoria' Star Alexa Demie Is Ready for Someone to Cast Her in a Comedy". People en Español. Archived from the original on March 28, 2020. Retrieved March 28, 2020. --Hipal (talk) 23:40, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Her birth date is either December 11, 1990 or her self-reported December 11, 1994. I think both should be up, just like was done with Mariah Carey's age. It used to say 1969 or 1970 for many years until someone found overwhelming proof it was the older age. Nokia621 (talk) 02:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

References

California Birth Index is not to be used.

NYGal.com is inferior to the references already identified and rejected. --Hipal (talk) 02:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

1994 is the birth year they used for all of the written interviews she did where they mentioned her age though. It's math. Nokia621 (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

The refs are poor, so we don't use them. --Hipal (talk) 05:01, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Given the refs and their quality, I think we either go with both years as Nokia621 suggests, or we leave it out. --Hipal (talk) 18:42, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I think it would be productive to find the best references we can find for each, then consider including both years per WP:DOB and the RfC it references.

What do we have for the day and month? Has Demie ever responded to any birthday wishes (like those linked above) with something that meets ABOUTSELF? --Hipal (talk) 02:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I've struck out my comment about leaving it out. DOB says to include multiple dates if references are BLP quality. --Hipal (talk) 17:34, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

So we have NYTimes and People for '94, WSJ for '90. NYGal is the only ref with the actual date? --Hipal (talk) 02:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Gathering the refs we'll probably need: --Hipal (talk) 20:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

• Polkinghorn, Alexandra (January 14, 2019). "WSJ.'s Young Hollywood Portfolio: 10 Rising Stars on Progress, Inclusion and Their Responsibilities for the Future" – via www.wsj.com.

  Gives an age of 28 in this 2019 article. --Hipal (talk) 02:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

• Oswaks, Molly (September 8, 2019). "Alexa Demie, a Breakout Star of 'Euphoria,' Has Hidden Talents". Archived from the original on July 16, 2020. Retrieved July 26, 2020 – via NYTimes.com.

  Gives an age of 24 in this 2019 article. --Hipal (talk) 16:20, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Alexa Demie Vanerstrom, Born 12/11/1990 in California". California Birth Index. Retrieved January 20, 2022.

  Note that there are two listings, one with last name "Vanerstrom", the other with "Wilson" [9]. --Hipal (talk) 16:20, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

• "5 Surprising Things You Didn't Know About Euphoria's Alexa Demie". New York Gal. June 3, 2021. Retrieved January 20, 2022.

  NYGal.com is not being used anywhere in Wikipedia as a reference, and this talk page is the only place where it is linked. The byline is "Staff writer", so it's not an opinion piece. I'd rather find a better reference. --Hipal (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

I'll add comments here for each ref in preparation for a BLPN discussion, and an RfC if necessary.

What I'm not seeing is her giving an age or date, so there may be privacy issues. --Hipal (talk) 20:37, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not finding any reference that quotes her stating her age or year of birth. --Hipal (talk) 16:29, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

• https://www.newsweek.com/yearbook-viral-video-confirm-age-euphoria-alexa-demie-1681853
• https://www.thelist.com/255825/actors-reveal-their-best-on-screen-kisses/

I'm not sure if these two are any better. They do both say that she has never stated her age, and the Newsweek includes a comment that they reached out to her representatives for comment. --Hipal (talk) 20:14, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

• https://peopleenespanol.com/chica/alexa-demie-interview/ "I'm a very private person" --Hipal (talk) 22:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

A note was added in March [10]:

Demie's age has been disputed online. While various outlets state that she was 24 years old in 2019, an online list of alumni from the 2008 graduating class of John Marshall High School in Los Angeles listed her name, while a viral TikTok video showed her in a 2007 high school yearbook, which would make her, as of 2022, at least 31 years old.

References

These are poor sources, and the use of Wikipedia's voice may be inappropriate (See WP:JEZEBEL, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#The_Daily_Dot). --Hipal (talk) 18:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

He was born in 1990. Check the wiki again. Wikipieder (talk) 06:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Birth name?

I'm confused on what to put for her birth name.

The California Birth Index claims she was born "Alexa Demie Wilson", and that "Wilson" is her fathers surname. But the Riverside Public Notice (on page 20/21) states her name as being "Alexa Demie Wilson Vanerstorm" before she changed it to "Alexa Demie". So what do we put for her birth name? Just keep it at "Alexa Demie Wilson"? Clear Looking Glass (talk) 03:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Isn't the public notice simply giving her legal name at the time, rather than her birth name? --Hipal (talk) 16:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Trillfendi:, could you please weigh in with exactly what problems you are seeing? --Hipal (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

The California Birth Index only takes general pieces of information (I have an aunt in there, so I can see first hand how limited the information is.), that’s why I think it should be widely accepted as a source. They won’t tell you what hospital or city the kid was born in, won’t give the parents’ full names or birth places, and doesn’t know if your siblings were born in other states. What I’ve been able to gather is that the “Wilson” surname came from Dennis Wilson, when her grandmother Carole married him. Her father Scott was born in a previous marriage to a man named Frank Vanerstorm but as an infant he was adopted as Dennis Wilson’s son. It’s all very confusing how the second last name got there being as her father evidently does not use it. Sorry that a bit of OR had to be involved. Trillfendi (talk) 13:46, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Because it's a primary reference, we can't use CA Birth Index to overturn better references. The NYTimes ref, being written by a freelancer, isn't very good, but it seems the best we have so far. If we had something of equal quality, I think it would be fine to list possible multiple years and indicate that the sources vary. --Hipal (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

We might want to remove her birthname at this point. I'm not clear what's verifying it. --Hipal (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

This ref was recently added as verifying her birth name, but I don't see how it properly verifies that information, same as the others mentioned above: https://trellis.law/case/19BBCP00120/IN-THE-MATTER-OF-ALEXA-DEMIE-WILSON-VANERSTROM --Hipal (talk) 15:28, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure how it works in the United States, but where I live if you're filing for a name change your current legal name needs to be on the record, backed up by sources such as bank statements or enrolment forms - without it, you can't legally prove you are who you say you are. I think it's safe to say that, at the time that she changed her name to Alexa Demie, her legal name was Alexa Demie Wilson Vanerstrom - but this doesn't prove that she wasn't born Alexa Demie Wilson and had her name changed by her parents at some point prior to this change. PunkAndromeda (talk) 11:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Exactly. All these refs do is identify what her legal name was at the time she changed it. None identify her birth name specifically. --Hipal (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

And the CaliforniaBirthIndex lists both "Alexa Demie Wilson" and "Alexa Demie Vanertrom" (identical records otherwise), but no "Alexa Demie Wilson Vanerstorm". I'm guessing this is a limitation of the index database. --Hipal (talk) 16:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Name change

As far as documenting her name change goes. The Daily Dot reference, currently used, links the trellis.law case that is linked above. I don't have access to the individual legal documents, but there's a decree and it documents her name before and after. The Riverside Public Notice only documents the intention to change her name, so I'm not sure if it's enough. The NYGal article mentioned in other discussions on this talk page is probably what originally was used to verify the information, but is an inferior reference. Which should we use? @Benmite:? --Hipal (talk) 02:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hipal: Are you asking whether or not we should include the name listed in the petition, whether or not we should include that she changed her name at all, or which source we should use to verify that she changed her name? I'm against including the name from the petition, since no RSs explicitly use that as her birth name, and even less reliable sources like The List only say that it is "reportedly" her birth name. Yes, The Daily Dot links to the petition, but nowhere in the article's text do they say what she changed her name to or from. I'd err on the side of caution here per WP:BLPPRIVACY and just include that she changed her name, as the Daily Dot article unequivocally supports that statement, without including what the name was or how it was changed, length-wise. As far as using NYGal as a source, I'm staunchly opposed to it. Information about the site is almost nonexistent, even on the site itself, but I have to assume that it lacks editorial oversight or fact-checking based on a lack of evidence to the contrary. I'm not sure which question you were posing, but I hope that answers all of them. benǝʇᴉɯ 03:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Good points all around.

You made this edit. I reverted. I'm trying to figure out what, if anything needs to be done to address your concerns.

I don't believe there are any privacy issues concerning her name change, given the public announcement. Do we need to add the announcement as a reference?

Thanks for your opinion on NYGal. We agree.

As discussed above, I don't think we have any sources that identify her birth name. Assumptions that her previous name is her birth name are OR.

Can we leave it as is, should we remove "by shortening it", should we add the public announcement or legal case documents as references? --Hipal (talk) 17:10, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hipal: We should remove "by shortening it" because the one RS we use to support the claim that she changed her name doesn't mention how she changed it. No, I don't think we should use the legal case documents to support her name change, as per WP:BLPPRIMARY: Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. The only reason I can see that we should need to use the court records as a ref is to augment the Daily Dot ref if it's determined that the article linking to those records is a good enough reason to use them, but I think that would be pushing it in regard to WP:BLPPRIVACY. benǝʇᴉɯ 03:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Given that the reference we're using links the legal case files, I don't understand how BLPPRIMARY applies.

I don't understand how BLPPRIVACY applies, given all the information is public. --Hipal (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hipal: BLPPRIMARY applies because, despite the Daily Dot article linking to the legal documents, all that the article text—and all that it explicitly confirms—is that Demie legally changed her name in 2019. If we wanted to include anything further, it might involve using the legal documents as a reference. BLPPRIVACY applies because Demie has been completely mum on the subject of her legal name or the changing thereof, and the only RS that mentions her changing her legal name is The Daily Dot. BLPPRIVACY states that full names should only be included if they have been "widely published by reliable sources", or published "by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public". Neither of these criteria are met, and although we're not including the full birth name listed in the legal documents, we're referencing that birth name by including that it was shortened. Also, the one source we use for this info also doesn't state that she shortened her name, merely that she legally had it changed. benǝʇᴉɯ 12:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I've searched for better references to resolve this easily, but haven't found anything that we could use.

I'm afraid we're at an impasse. The information is public. RfC? BLPN? --Hipal (talk) 17:03, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hipal: Either works. benǝʇᴉɯ 15:24, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks.

I've removed it per BLP, as we don't have consensus [11]

Summarizing from my perspective: It's a fact that she made the details public. That's not in dispute. From my perspective, that negates any BLPPRIVACY issues.

I'm going to try 3O to start. --Hipal (talk) 15:56, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request:

If the question is only whether to include "by shortening it", then the answer is no. Neither the Daily Dot or the court document fully verify that statement. ––FormalDude talk 21:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

@FormalDude: Thanks for the response. The court documents definitely verify that she shortened her name. I don't understand why someone would say otherwise. Concerns of OR/SYN perhaps? --Hipal (talk) 16:48, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

That is the concern, yes. ––FormalDude talk 19:40, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I think BLPN would be a good next step, mentioning the OR/SYN concerns as well as BLPPRIVACY and BLPPRIMARY. --Hipal (talk) 20:28, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Verification that grandfather is Dennis Wilson

I couldn't find the reference when it was removed. @Trillfendi: could you please add the citation to the information? --Hipal (talk) 22:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Her father's mom was married to DW, but isn't his biological son. Aquarius us27 (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protection: Age

I've been seeing a lot of disputes about her age uncertainty taking place on her wiki page, but some of them claim that she is 40... It's just a bit too ridiculous. Any way we can semi-protect her page so non-registered users and anons can't edit her page as a joke? Thanks. E247G (talk) 08:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Source for father's name

None of the sources that were in the article supported the name of her father, except possibly the book, but it's self-published and not a reliable source for a BLP. Can anyone find a reliable source that states his name? I'm unable to find anything. Schazjmd (talk) 01:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

@Schazjmd: Would this article from Girlfriend be acceptable? https://www.girlfriend.com.au/alexa-demie-boyfriend – Starklinson 03:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2022

(born 10 December 1990) Axel 92110 (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Nthep (talk) 21:58, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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Television Year Title Role Notes 2016 Ray Donovan Shairee 3 episodes 2018 Love Marina 2 episodes 2019 The OA Ingrid Episode: "Treasure Island" 2019–present Euphoria Maddy Perez Main role; 8 episodes

In this article, it states Alexa Demie was featured in 8 episodes of Euphoria, but with the new season, she has been featured in a total of 13 now. The edit would be to change the number of episodes Alexa played "Maddy Perez" from 8 episodes to 13 episodes. Bellaqueen1219 (talk) 07:37, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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References

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References

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IMPORTANT: Her actual Birthdate, name and age

the California birth index between 1905–1995 (https://www.californiabirthindex.org/) is the end all be all source (besides a birth certificate) for someone born in California in that time period. Obviously an birth certificate would give far more information but there is no doubt as according to her birth index record her name is Alexa Demie Wilson Vanerstrom born December 11th 1990, so she is 31 according to offical state registration. What’s odd though is that she has three separate records in the index, this is most likely due to her name change to Wilson. Magnumb22 (talk) 01:40, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

See the discussions above. We cannot use that reference, and it doesn't verify "Vanerstrom" from https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/alexa_demie_wilson_born_1990_20368720 at least. --Hipal (talk) 02:29, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnumb22: re [12]:See above. --Hipal (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Excuse me how can we not use that source (by the way)… Magnumb22 (talk) 21:10, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

For the reasons given in the previous discussions and the general consensus on it's use. --Hipal (talk) 23:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Thats not a reason. You are a Frequent editor I see so surely you would be able to give me your reasoning here without directing someone to go look at tons of discussion pages. Magnumb22 (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

You have it backwards. If you want to change consensus, make a case that takes into account previous discussions and relevant policies. --Hipal (talk) 00:18, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

What consensus. I’m just genuinely asking for a reason looking at your Wikipedia page I’m kind of baffled because you have it here that you want to resolve issues and yet you can be causing them by your tone. Maybe you’re not from the US so maybe your culture is different? but this condescension is just not good. Magnumb22 (talk) 04:06, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Please WP:FOC. --Hipal (talk) 15:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Are we going to have a problem?… you can’t give me a valid reason. Pretty sure that’s not adequate wikipedia editing skills. And I am genuinely trying to understand why you are acting in this way… Magnumb22 (talk) 16:28, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you make an edit request. --Hipal (talk) 18:26, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Additional article protections have been put in place to prevent further problem editing.

Talk:Alexa_Demie#Age covers her birth date. I added a summary recently.

Talk:Alexa_Demie#Birth_name? covers her birth name. --Hipal (talk) 19:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2022

Alexa Demies’s real height is 157cm. She is shorter than Sydney Sweeney. 2001:E60:3164:E0AB:183:30B3:77AE:B0B0 (talk) 09:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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Implement Alexa Demie’s age December 11, 1990 Implement Her birth name with is Alexa Vanerstrom Wilson Add Her education which is John Marshall High School in which she graduated in 2008.

^^ Confirmed by former classmates of Alexa Trueblueeee (talk) 03:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

) Trueblueeee (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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Demie's age

Alexia was born in December 1990 203.213.104.11 (talk) 00:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

A reliable source is required that clearly demonstrates that the other references are wrong. See the previous discussion. --Hipal (talk) 03:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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Her birthday is December 11th so i’m adding that to her Wikipedia page Jaydentaylor1222 (talk) 02:30, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

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79.146.138.223 (talk) 12:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Alexia Demie has played Maddy in Euphoria for 16 episodes, rather than 14.

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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Born: December 1989 (31 years old) 41.246.129.234 (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

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80.192.244.115 (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Her birthday (December 11, 1990)(age 31)

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Early career in lede

I removed the mention of "Miles" from the lede [13]. None of it is notable, and the temptation to emphasize obscure work like this detracts from her important work. I'm going to remove it completely. --Hipal (talk) 19:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

@Hipal: I think that's entirely fair. I was partially just trying to pad out the lead so that it didn't look so bare in comparison to the rest of the article, but it's hard to deny that Miles is only notable for being her first official film credit, and even then, she made minor appearances in a couple other things prior to that. benǝʇᴉɯ 02:24, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. While we're looking, note that some of those references are rather sketchy. My guess is that she has been very careful with what she's disclosed about her early career, so we should too. --Hipal (talk) 02:44, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Alexa Demie/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: XtraJovial (talk · contribs) 00:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I'll start this review shortly. XtraJovial (talk) 00:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Preface

After just under 1,000 revisions, the article sits at a wikitext size of 21 kilobytes, and a prose size of 5,333 bytes (912 words). Prior to this review, the article has been assessed as C-Class across all WikiProjects to which it is of interest.

Assessment

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   The article does not misuse primary sources, nor does it cite any self-published sources.

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

   As broad as can be with sources provided and BLP policies allow.

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   On hold for the time being. See § Comments. Passed

Comments

While the article is reasonably well written, I feel like the following changes could be made.

• A little more might need to be added to the lead section. Not much, but I'd suggest mentioning her directorial roles in some capacity—although they're just for music videos.

 Done. Added short sentence about Demie's music video direction as well as her appearances in music videos. Can expand/be more specific if necessary. benǝʇᴉɯ 04:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Demie was born in Los Angeles, California. She grew up in the neighborhood of Atwater Village, where she was raised by her mother..." might read better as "Born in Los Angeles, California, Demie grew up in the neighborhood of Atwater Village. She was raised by her mother..."

 Done. benǝʇᴉɯ 04:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

• Infobox should mention Demie's mother, as she's mentioned—albeit briefly—in the article body.

 Not done, as per the instructions for the parents parameter in the documentation for the person infobox: Names of parents; include only if they are independently notable or particularly relevant. benǝʇᴉɯ 04:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

If you're unable to implement any of my suggestions, please explain why. Thanks! XtraJovial (talk) 03:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@XtraJovial: Made two of the changes, small objection to one of them. Thank you so much for reviewing this! benǝʇᴉɯ 04:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Alright; I've decided to Pass this article. Congratulations, and thank you for your nomination! XtraJovial (talk) 14:15, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@XtraJovial: Thanks again for the review! benǝʇᴉɯ 00:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

GA reassessment needed

There are some rather poor references, plus heavy reliance on interviews and publicity.

There are ongoing content disputes that are not settled, and some that are unclear if they are resolved: Talk:Alexa_Demie#Age, Talk:Alexa_Demie#Birth_name?, Talk:Alexa_Demie#Verification_that_grandfather_is_Dennis_Wilson, Talk:Alexa_Demie#Source_for_father's_name, Talk:Alexa_Demie#Early_career_in_lede. --Hipal (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

It's unclear that the recent removal of six poor references, without any changes in content [14], fully address the problems. --Hipal (talk) 02:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Name change in personal life

Hi folks, I’m new to editing here and don’t feel comfortable editing the one sentence personal life section, but right now it is incoherent and doesn’t appear to be correct. There are multiple news stories about alexa changing her name, but not to Harmony. Lasagnalizards (talk) 04:27, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I believe that was just some recent vandalism. It was reverted. Thanks for noting it and starting a discussion. --Hipal (talk) 20:07, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

UPI ref for birth date

• https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2022/12/11/UPI-Almanac-for-Sunday-Dec-11-2022/1401670688793/

I don't think this meets WP:DOB criteria. Given that we have two sources that say she's never stated her age (see discussions above), I think we continue to keep it out. --Hipal (talk) 01:41, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Birth date and Court Record

Alexa Demie Wilsonvanerstrom, Born 12/11/1990 in California | CaliforniaBirthIndex.Org. https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/alexa_demie_wilsonvanerstrom_born_1990_20369962. Accessed 29 Nov. 2023.

Name Alexa Demie Wilson Vanerstrom Birth Date 11 Dec 1990 Gender Female Mother's Maiden Name Mendez Birth County Los Angeles

“Case 19BBCP00120 In The Matter Of: Alexa Demie Wilson Vanerstrom - Trellis: Legal Intelligence + Judicial Analytics.” Trellis.Law, https://trellis.law/case/19bbcp00120/in-the-matter-of-alexa-demie-wilson-vanerstrom. Accessed 29 Nov. 2023.

2601:441:487F:930:3C53:7BDE:4457:4C40 (talk) 06:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

As already mentioned above, neither meets WP:BLPPRIMARY or WP:DOB. --Hipal (talk) 18:42, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Alexa Demi’s age

Why does the age of Alexa Demi is not mentioned ? If I’m not mistaken all the articles of people in Wikipedia mention date birth as well , right? Qplb191 (talk) 17:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

See WP:DOB and the discussions above. --Hipal (talk) 19:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)