Talk:Alexander Jacob (police officer)

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Dr. Alexander Jacob IPS is a well known Police Officer in Kerala. He is very well known for his meritorious sevice in Police Training. He was awarded for this meritorious service with the Police Medal from the President of India in 2004. Ref. The Official Website of Kerala Police Simon Cheakkanal (talk) 07:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is documented with third party references. Simon Cheakkanal (talk) 07:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unsure that this is enough. Let's wait until an expert arrives to judge. WP's guidelines for notability are quite strict; have you read them? Tony (talk) 07:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

REASON FOR SPEEDY DELETE: An award, a doctorate and a senior police position do not satisfy the notability policy. Tony (talk) 10:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does, an award is notability per WP:BIO! Schuym1 (talk) 02:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited this article with references. So the deletion template is removed. Simon Cheakkanal (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then it's off to AFD we go because I don't think he's notable. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See the following links: [1], [2],[3],[4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14] [15], [16], We can find the name Dr. Alexander Jacop IPS in the above mentioned links as a resource person.Simon Cheakkanal (talk) 02:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Those sources are all crap - I could generate that number and standard and more about myself and I'm not notable. --Cameron Scott (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete[edit]

Sorry, mere mention as an employee is totally insufficient. Has he published anything?

More to the point, have you read the WP:NOTABILITY requirements? Tony (talk) 03:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have re-declined the speedy, as there was still no reason specified (I think you're after {{db-a7}} rather than the generic {{speedydelete}}), and not meeting WP:N is explicitly not a reason for speedy deletion (see CSD A7). I agree that the notability is shaky, but the information on the awards that this person has garnered are, in my view, "a reasonable indication of why it might be notable", to quote the above-linked policy. I suggest WP:AFD or WP:PROD if you want to delete this article, because it clearly does not meet the speedy deletion criteria. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 03:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Notability[edit]

Unlike the subjects of other articles that this/these author(s) has/have authored, Alexander Jacob is a notable IPS officer (It's from my memory, so I can't add more credibility to my statement at this point). Several articles in Malayalam Newspapers (including those w/ circulation of 1 million or more daily copies) should have a number of citations about him. Unfortunately, it is difficult - if not impossible - to cite online references that seems credible to a western audience, although someone could dig up those old newspaper references and make the article look more credible from a notability perspective. --Jacob.jose (talk) 04:02, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well someone needs to find them - as far as I'm concerned this article fails WP:Note on a number of counts and I will AFD it later day if further research on my part does not turn up some better sources --Cameron Scott (talk) 10:28, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Being IGP of Kerala Police and Director of Police Training academy are sufficient to establish notability. What I am more concerned is whether the original author will maintain this article anymore, considering he no more has the opportunity for self promotion through the deleted article Thomas Kuzhinapurath --Jacob.jose (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]