Talk:Alexander of Trebizond

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 20:00, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion[edit]

Note: Article uses Finlay, an older source, for a lot, but the specific volume used is generally regarded as being reliable. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 20:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Suggestions[edit]

Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.

Lede[edit]

After John IV rebelled against their father in c. 1426, John was exiled and Alexios made Alexander the designated heir. suggest John was exiled after a failed rebellion against their father in c. 1426, and Alexios made Alexander the designated heir.

Changed. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

John returned to Trebizond in early 1429, assassinated their father, forced Alexander into exile and claimed the throne for himself. suggest John returned to Trebizond in early 1429 and seized the throne, killing Alexios and forcing Alexander into exile.

Changed. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While in exile, Alexander lived in Constantinople given that his sister Maria had married the Byzantine emperor John VIII Palaiologos suggest While in exile, Alexander lived in Constantinople, as his sister Maria had married the Byzantine emperor John VIII Palaiologos

Done. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lede does not mention the date he was coronated or died.

It says he died at the top (c. 1405–1459), that he was designated heir c. 1426 and that he was co-emperor c. 1451–1459. Do these dates need to be repeated and more clear? Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think they should be repeated in prose, IMO. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 17:36, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've added them. Ichthyovenator (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Early life[edit]

In the writings of contemporary historian Laonikos Chalkokondyles, Alexander is called Skantarios, a name seemingly of Turkish origin,[3] perhaps related to İskender, the Turkish form of Alexander. don't think the names need to be italicized.

Removed italics. Ichthyovenator (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alexios appears to have designated Alexander, the next eldest son, as heir instead, and perhaps made him co-emperor suggest Alexios appears to have designated his next eldest son, Alexander, as heir instead, and perhaps made him co-emperor.

Changed. Ichthyovenator (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Co-emperor[edit]

Suggest retitling this section to "rule".

Done. Ichthyovenator (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

per Kuršanskis it is probable that Alexander was thus made co-emperor and designated heir suggest Kuršanskis states it is probable that Alexander was thus made co-emperor and designated heir

Changed. Ichthyovenator (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ichthyovenator: That is all of my suggestions, passing now; apologies for taking a very long time. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 17:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges: Thank you very much, and no worries :) Happy holidays! Ichthyovenator (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Same to you! Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]