Talk:Alfie Oakes

A fact from Alfie Oakes appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 August 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Alfie Oakes sued a school district for US$50 million in response to alleged cancel culture?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:52, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Alfie Oakes sued the School District of Lee County for $50 million after it cancelled a contract with his company in response to his controversial opinions? Source: WINK News~~
- ALT1:... that Alfie Oakes sued the a school district for $50 million in response to alleged cancel culture? Source: WINK News
- ALT2:... that Alfie Oakes sued a school district for $50 million dollars in response to cancellation of a contract with his company?Source: WINK News

Created by PCHS-NJROTC (talk). Self-nominated at 02:26, 7 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and plagiarism-free. Hook is interesting; however, I find it a bit wordy and don't see it mentioned in the article. The article also her a {{cleanup}} tag so the issues'll have to be resolved and the tag removed. Nominator only has two prior noms so no QPQ needed. Pamzeis (talk) I am not watching this page so please ping me if you want my attention. 09:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay in responding @Pamzeis:, I contracted COVID-19 and haven't been up to editing Wikipedia the last few days (for the purposes of transparency of my position on the subject matter, I will comment that I do not regret refusing the vaccine). I propose two alternatives that trim the wordiness. The first alt is less wordy than the second alt and seems fine to me, but someone might challenge the fact that the WINK News article doesn't use the term "cancel culture." There may be a source somewhere that does use that term in this case, but DuckDuckGo isn't putting it in the top results. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 16:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No biggie! Our health should always come first. Anyways, this article has been cleaned up (thank you to Animalparty) and has less wordy alts. Somehow, I didn't see the fact in the article on my initial read. Nice work! Pamzeis (talk) 00:34, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To T:DYK/P1

Did he win? MilvusMilvusMilvus (talk) 20:29, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The election for state committeman? As indicated in the article, yes. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 02:34, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs some balance[edit]

This article reads like a Puff Piece! I hope the creator of this article was paid well by the subject of this article (especially considering he was awarded 9 figures in $$$ by the Trump Administration). I said that last sentence tongue-in-cheek: I don't really think the creator was compensated by Oakes. But that something from this page was featured in DYK shows how far over the shark Wikipedia has jumped. Is this what Wikipedia is becoming? A place for partisans to write puff pieces for their political heroes? Glad I jumped off this ship a long time ago... from a former Wikipedia Admin. 67.8.1.23 (talk) 08:23, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I had to make changes to your edit was because I felt it went above and beyond what the WP:RS you provided said; I read it to say that Trump may have violated the Hatch Act, not that Alfie Oakes did. We have to be extremely careful with WP:BLPs. I welcome third opinion on the matter. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 16:48, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How exactly does the subject of this article not meet GNG?[edit]

The article has numerous references from independent sources with more than a trivial mention. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 18:18, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]