Talk:Alfred Dunhill

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 08:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I look forward to your review. Farrtj (talk) 09:54, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am not aware of him having a middle name. Tom (talk) 12:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
One of the books I ran into online was written by Alfred H. Dunhill. I forgot whether it was one of the two mentioned below or another one. Please add content on his publications as an author.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:49, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Gentle Art of Smoking is probably the book you are referring to, and was written by Alfred Dunhill's son, Alfred H Dunhill. Tom (talk) 14:09, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If his son is known as the publisher of an important book or for any other notable reason mention it in this article. P.S. make it clear, which of his books are in continuous printing and which are out of print.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:14, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The son is already mentioned in the article. Tom (talk) 14:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 19:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
These can be sections rather than subsections.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:15, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will leave this until last. Tom (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You need to merge or expand the stubby 2nd and 4th paragraphs. Probably merge both into the third.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:38, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 14:20, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No. Tom (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There is no article on Wikipedia that relates to the Conduit Street on Mayfair. Tom (talk) 19:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Have linked the other two. Tom (talk) 19:38, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that he did not. Tom (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No. Tom (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Alfred Dunhill discussed here wrote that book. Tom (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This article needs to discuss his role as an author--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it does so now. Tom (talk) 19:37, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Alfred Dunhill discussed here wrote that book also. Tom (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This article needs to discuss his role as an author--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have added sentences about the one book he published. As scholarly databases such as JStor are almost silent on this book, I consider it to be of little importance, and therefore I don't think it warrants much more attention. Tom (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have uncovered that Alfred Dunhill's son, Alfred H Dunhill, wrote The Gentle Art of Smoking. Tom (talk) 14:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done.Tom (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Every single one omits a middle name/initial, from the Times to the NYT, and also the ODNB. Tom (talk) 19:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 19:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So that this updates itself every year, use a format like this: C$10,000 (C$89,057 in 2024 dollars[1])--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 11:37, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Although it was taken in 1893, I can't be certain it was published in 1893. Tom (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think there are places on WP where you can get questions answered about WP:NFCC and WP:COPYVIO. There are experts on finding out when images were first published I think. Try to check around.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Where are we on this issue?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just lost and confused. Tom (talk) 09:38, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ask at the help desk on how to determine if an images from 1893 has been published.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:23, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Did you ask?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom (talk) 11:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What's the status on this review? No comments since May. Wizardman 19:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

TonyTheTiger Sorry but due to personal issues I cannot spare the time to complete this review. Please feel free to close. Tom (talk) 15:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The only issue is the licensing of the main image. I will leave a note that will appear at WP:GAN and wait for a response.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, TonyTheTiger, much obliged. Tom (talk) 21:27, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyTheTiger: I don't see any issue with the image's license. We don't know the original date or source of publication. I know it seems odd, but we would have to have evidence of it being published (including when and where) to prove that it was not still copyright. We are better to err on the side of caution in this situation. Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 01:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If the image is fine, then I can PASS this article now.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Similarities to ODNB[edit]

Sorry to raise the issue, but this article may have copyright problems. The first substantial edit to this page on 24 December 2013 - immediately after the previous content was moved to Dunhill (luxury goods) - is a copy of the ODNB page (you will need a subscription). Subsequent editing (diff) has left in place large chunks that are (or nearly) identical. Here are some examples:

Wikipedia ODNB
Dunhill was born on the 30 September 1872 at 2 Church Path, Hornsey, Middlesex.[2] He was the second son of five children of Henry Dunhill (1842–1901), a master blind-maker, and his wife and cousin, Jane, née Styles (1843–1922).[2] His father ran his business from the Euston Road, manufacturing accessories for horse-drawn vehicles.[3] ... Dunhill ... was born on 30 September 1872 at 2 Church Path, Hornsey, Middlesex, the second son of five children of Henry Dunhill (1842–1901), a master blind-maker, and his wife and cousin, Jane, née Styles (1843–1922). Henry Dunhill ran his business from the Euston Road, making among other things, accessories for horse-drawn vehicles. ...
The post-war period witnessed both expansion and the commissioning of fresh products.[4] The company always ensured its products were covered by patent and trade mark, a policy prosecuted with vigour from the outset.[4] The early 1920s saw the wholesale and export side of the business move to Notting Hill Gate, close to the pipe and cigarette division located at Campden Hill Road.[4] ... The post-war period witnessed both expansion and the commissioning of fresh products. The company always ensured its products were covered by patent and trade mark, a policy prosecuted with vigour from the outset. The early 1920s saw the wholesale and export side of the business move to Notting Hill Gate, close to the pipe and cigarette division located at Campden Hill Road. ...
Dunhill's decision to chair his final meeting of the company on 5 February 1929 was precipitated by personal circumstances.[4] Having placed the firm on a steady course, he felt able to leave his son Alfred in charge.[4] He left his wife and moved to Worthing to join his long-term mistress, Vera Mildred Wright (b. 1902/3), who changed her name to his by deed poll.[4] Dunhill married Vera on 28 March 1945, shortly after the death of his wife.[4] He died at Hopedene Nursing Home, Wordsworth Road, Worthing on 2 January 1959, and was cremated at Golders Green crematorium.[4] His wife survived him.[4] Dunhill's decision to chair his final meeting of the company on 5 February 1929 was precipitated by personal circumstances. Having placed the firm on a steady course, he felt able to leave his son Alfred in charge. He left his wife and journeyed to Worthing to join his mistress of long standing, Vera Mildred Wright (b. 1902/3), who changed her name to his by deed poll. ... He married Vera on 28 March 1945, shortly after the death of his wife. He died at Hopedene Nursing Home, Wordsworth Road, Worthing on 2 January 1959, and was cremated at Golders Green crematorium. His wife survived him.

I welcome views from other editors, but I think this article may need to be rewritten from scratch. -- Ferma (talk) 19:13, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ 1688 to 1923: Geloso, Vincent, A Price Index for Canada, 1688 to 1850 (December 6, 2016). Afterwards, Canadian inflation numbers based on Statistics Canada tables 18-10-0005-01 (formerly CANSIM 326-0021) "Consumer Price Index, annual average, not seasonally adjusted". Statistics Canada. Retrieved April 17, 2021. and table 18-10-0004-13 "Consumer Price Index by product group, monthly, percentage change, not seasonally adjusted, Canada, provinces, Whitehorse, Yellowknife and Iqaluit". Statistics Canada. Retrieved April 17, 2021.
  2. ^ a b "Mr. A. Dunhill". The Times. 5 January 1959.
  3. ^ Linda Welters; Abby Lillethun (2011). The Fashion Reader: Second Edition. Berg. p. 509. ISBN 978-1-84788-589-0. Retrieved 2014-02-20.
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h i Cite error: The named reference odnb was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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