Talk:All Out Life

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Genre[edit]

All Out Life have strong elements of groove metal (the first genre placed): heavy guitar and heavy/screamed vocal (nearly death metal growl), like the more recent band songs and like the groove metal songs by groove metal bands, examples: Locust by Machine Head; 5 Minutes Alone by Pantera and some songs of All Hope Is Gone. The song also have thrash metal influences (mainly the guitar), but it's heavier than thrash metal (but it's both).

Nu metal? No. Slipknot was a nu metal band only on first three albums (Slipknot, Iowa and Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)).

Note: The song have blast beats in 4:07,^[1] and blast beats are extremely rare in nu metal (see Nu metal#Instrumentation).

--Marcos FTO (talk) 01:20, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no accurate information to suggest that all out life is groove metal or thrash metal, stop vandalising the page with your opinions, you have to use reliable 3rd party research! It is also not necessarily nu metal so please stop that as well! Noob boi (talk) 13:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Noob boi: Firstly: for the music genre, it's "Heavy metal music", not "Heavy metal". Not always I can find a source, it depends on the newspapers, magazines, specialized sites, whatever... so I created a consensus with arguments. And I'm not a vandal, I have arguments. Creating a consensus isn't wrong. WP:CON --Marcos FTO (talk) 14:01, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't create a consensus, you just listed what you thought the genres are. Genres need to be sourced and cannot be individual editors opinion.RF23 (talk) 00:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever labeled this "thrash metal" clearly doesn't know what thrash metal is, and this most definitely isn't groove metal. Can someone fix this? <-·'¯'·.Ðé§§í©átéÐ ©ó®þ§é.·'¯'·-> (talk) 14:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Slipknot - All Out Life, October 30, 2018, retrieved December 23, 2018

Nu metal?[edit]

A user is putting "nu metal" just because a source points out similarities with Iowa, which is considered a nu metal album. Also, another source says that the song uses "tribal patterns", and, according to him, "tribal" is a nu metal characteristic.

My question is: does Wikipedia works like this? Because at no time these sources called the song "nu metal". --Marcos FTO (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From La Canal Auditif: "There is amore brutal Slipknot and close to the first albums. The drums are halfway between tribal patterns and metal thrash while Corey Taylor screams in a more applied way." And from Kerrang: "..with a streak of venom running through it that could have been vomited forth from Iowa." I don't get why you need to continue genre warring when the sources that already are on the article make comparisons to the bands earlier nu metal albums. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 22:24, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how wiki works. From WP:SYNTH "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Similarly, do not combine different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source." RF23 (talk) 04:18, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Slipknot - All Out Life, October 30, 2018, retrieved December 23, 2018

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