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see Kariomone comments

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Reference List[edit]

This area is for credible references to use to expand the Article. Make sure any reference you post here is from a legitimate source.--M rickabaugh (talk) 19:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Potential references

Potential References List

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Insect Defenses: Adaptive mechanisms and strategies of prey and predators By David L. Evans, Justin O. Schmidt http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=jpxkhS7O0p0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA289&dq=Allomone&ots=6DCs9f8xs3&sig=RQ6sLPM-FJum6inN4HW6OpCDbWw#v=onepage&q=Allomone&f=false
Caterpillar's use of Allomones: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W9W-45R7FG0-B0&_user=10&_coverDate=03/31/1993&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1466527572&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=13434328e330017142d11b3c0e656126&searchtype=a
Cambridge Journals: Acid Allomones in Marine Organisms: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=4378624 —Preceding unsigned comment added by M rickabaugh (talk • contribs) 00:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Journal of Chemical Ecology By Paul J. Weldon: In Defense of "Kairomone" as a Class of Chemical Releasing Stimuli: http://www.springerlink.com/content/r24208963253r7g6/--Rebekah best (talk) 23:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know how to use this box above, if someone could help me out that would be great. Also, for posting links to resources, is just the URL ok, or do I need to do a whole citation template?--M rickabaugh (talk) 00:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The use of the above template is simple...once you know what it's all about. Just put the generated reference between the two things that have {{these brackets}} around it. I've done it on this page, also see the one here. As for generating the citations to be used throughout the artile, you need to fill out one of the templates, just URLs won't get you much support from the community unfortunately.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 16:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a reference, but it is extremely short. I added this mostly because I wanted to use the definition and some of the history of the definition that was included. So, sorry if you wanted to use it and there is hardly any information.--Rebekah best (talk) 00:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! A few references I would like to potentially use to add to this article are listed below. Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions.

ALLOMONES AND KAIROMONES . TRANSSPECIFIC CHEMICAL MESSENGERS Eisner, T; Whittaker, RH ISSN: 0006-3568 , 1525-3244; DOI: 10.2307/1294753 BioScience. , 1970, Vol.20(1), p.21-+

THE ROLE OF PHEROMONES, KAIROMONES, AND ALLOMONES IN THE HOST SELECTION AND COLONIZATION BEHAVIOR OF BARK BEETLES Dl Wood ISSN: 0066-4170 , 1545-4487; DOI: 10.1146/annurev.en.27.010182.002211 Annual review of entomology. , 1982, Vol.27, p.411-446

Semiochemical parsimony in the Arthropoda By:Blum, MS (Blum, MS) ANNUAL REVIEW OF ENTOMOLOGY Volume: 41 Pages: 353-374 DOI: 10.1146/annurev.en.41.010196.002033 Published: 1996 Document Type:Review

PoriferaAsteroidea (talk) 14:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Mine-field[edit]

This could be a problem:

From the wiki-article on kairomone: improves the fitness of the recipient and in this respect differs from an allomone (which is the opposite: it benefits the producer and harms the receiver) and a synomone (which benefits both parties).
From the definition of Allomone in this article proposed by Brown and Eisner (Brown,1968): to denote those substances which convey an advantage upon the emitter. Because Brown and Eisner did not specify whether or not the receiver would benefit, the original definition of allomone includes both substances that benefit the receiver and the emitter, and substances that only benefit the emitter. An example of the first relationship would be a mutualistic relationship, and the latter would be a repellent secretion.
Then I read an article that states the allomone-kairomone dichotomy should be dropped – apparently a perspective supported by leading Chemical Ecologist.
Compound that with an article already written on pheromones which will no doubt overlap this one – since apparently most examples of Chemical Releasing Stimuli (CRS) ( term that describes allomone, kairimone, and synome) involves pheromones.

When the experts do not agree, to the point that they are debating the definition of the word itself – then problems will no doubt crop up that are beyond our control.--JimmyButler (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is worrying. You could do all the research in the world about evolutionary origin and examples of use in past and contemporary organisms, but if the experts (and therefore, you) can't clearly define what it is...than you're in trouble. NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I came to a similar conclusion last week when I did a quick survey of the literature. There is a further problem with allomone in that it is an ecological concept defined by insect biology. There seems to be similar concepts in plant biology but the definitions in the two fields don't seem to line up exactly. There are analogous plant chemicals that are not pheromones and yet functionally they are similar in concept to an allomone. In short, a nebulous topic that might be best skipped and a new topic substituted. Cheers, Wassupwestcoast (talk) 01:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article was dropped from the Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2010 with little modification by our students. The group could not ascertain what information was relevant and what was the appropriate breadth and depth of this topic. Hopefully someone with greater expertise will expand upon this subject in the future. --JimmyButler (talk) 14:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]