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Purpose/focus Humane care for animals Headquarters New York CityPurpose/focus Humane care for animals Headquarters New York City

They run commercials with nightmare-inducing images that should have a warning for children and sensitive adults. In one northern California market these horrific ads run daily, if not hourly. Eventually this emotional blackmail will backfire when the psychological damage is considered.

https://activistfacts.com/organizations/american-society-for-the-prevention-of-cruelty-to-animals-aspca/

First?

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It want the first in the Western hemisphere - the RSPCA was founded about 40 years earlier.

Ed Sayres, although president of the San Francisco SPCA for a few years, was not the individual associated with the "hotel-like" facilities of the shelter. That individual was Richard Avanzino, who established new standards for animal adoption housing.

and "hotel-like" facilities in a weasel word. 195.134.69.213 06:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

it is only right if animals are not put to sleep if no one adopts them the people at the animal shelter should take an animal home for a day and see if they like that and wha t do you know... there might oneless animal in the adoption center. and if you do not like that dog you could always send it to another adoption center. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.171.122 (talk) 23:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

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The ASPCA is listed under List of animal welfare groups, however, it says here that the ASPCA lobbies for animal rights legislation. Is the ASPCA pro animal rights or animal welfare?Ziiv (talk) 05:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The statement on its website about food: "The ASPCA believes that whether or not to consume animals, and animal products such as milk and eggs, is a personal and private determination that must be left to each individual. However, the ASPCA firmly believes that animals who are bred, raised and killed or harvested for human consumption, like all animals, are entitled to protection from distress and suffering during their lives and at the time of their deaths." makes it pretty clear that the ASPCA is an animal welfare, not an animal rights organization. MikeHobday (talk) 16:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Needs Work

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The ASPCA is clearly a notable org, but this article reads like little more than a promotional puff -- it needs external refs and to be expanded TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 18:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


  • Agreed. I am heavily involved with the ASPCA, and I was utterly shocked when I saw this article! I plan to work on it when time allows. Unfortunately time is very scarce for me lately. Amor amor (talk) 08:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Law enforcement?

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The article is a bit of a stub so no wonder it's missing, but I'm wondering how what seems to be a private non-profit organisation gets to enforce laws? Is a citizen's arrest kind of thing, or is that particular organisation actually entitled to having uniformed officers (for example) confiscate injured animals and fine people? Is this possibly one of those 'incorporation' kind of things? -- MiG (talk) 10:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do know that they has a division on law enforcement. I believe their idea around it was to create one that is specific for the animals since the regular police have so many over calls to respond to. My question is, should the law enforcement be added into the article, like specific cases and such, since so many things are missing from it? Milagrosramirez6 (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

History

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The US ASPCA is an ersatz of the French SPA created in 1845, which was the first state organization dedicated to the protection and well being of animals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.178.118 (talk) 21:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dog Belonging to CEO of Richmond SPCA Dies After Being Left in Hot Car

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link I'm not sure if this should be added to the article or not. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


http://www.richmondspca.org/ is a different entity not related to ASPCA in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.13.116 (talk) 14:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

fluff removed

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i've removed a lot of fluff and promotional material from the article, as well as non-notable 'news' items listed. the article read in many places like promotional copy for the organization. Anastrophe (talk) 17:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pet Suicide?

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In the "Resources for Pets and Parents" section, a "Pet Suicide" line is referenced. Not only can I find absolutely no reference to this anywhere but on this site, it seems ridiculous on it's face. Is there any verification of this...anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.72.87 (talk) 22:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blammo! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Operations outside of NYC/ not umbrella organization

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The article needs to clarify the scale of the operations of the ASPA outside of New York City. Also missing is prominent mention of the fact that the ASPCA is not an umbrella organization (SPCA of [city/county/etc] is an unrelated organization. 216.222.232.28 (talk) 15:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Opposition to animal welfare legislation

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No mention of the ASPCA's opposition to legislation enabling rescue groups to take custody of animals in kill shelters that are slated to be killed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.112.208 (talk) 19:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article Bias

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This article seems biased. It states "ASPCA is a great organization used to prevent animal cruelty", and "The ASPCA's "Advocacy Brigade" allows users to write or e-mail their legislators on important animal legislation bills and referendums." These seems more like opinions than facts. Zuka547 (talk) 19:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Advertisements

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I know you guys have been getting this a lot, but should we have at least SOMETHING about the sad advertisements that clog up my TV? Because I'm about ready to sue the ASPCA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.220.197 (talk) 02:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ASPCA: More job opportunities

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ASPCA is a great organization. They have great values and want to help animals in need. ASPCA should branch out their offices throughout different states. This is will give an opportunity to those who do not live near or in the East Coast a chance to work for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.231.161.51 (talk) 23:38, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ASPCA misnomer

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While the ASPCA may do work nationally, as some SPCA's do, they are primarily the SPCA for NYC, and misrepresent themselves as a national organization. They are one of the largest SPCA's in the nation, no doubt partly because they misrepresent themselves as an umbrella organization, and advertise nationally as the "American" SPCA, but they are not. Simply cutting and pasting the verbiage from their website lends credence to this misrepresentation. What is at issue is that the ASPCA gains financially at the expense of local organizations that are more effective in dealing with local issues. If you're going to have a page about the ASPCA on Wikipedia, it's important to clarify who they are vis-a-vis other SPCA's, not to just reprint what they have to say about themselves.

Reference: http://www.thenonprofittimes.com/news-articles/animal-groups-barking-at-aspca/ http://workingtohelpanimalstodaytomorrow.blogspot.com/2011/05/lawsuit-filed-against-aspca-for.html

Charwhee (talk) 21:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The ASPCA and the Electric Chair

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According to Electric chair, the initial use of electricity for the purpose of killing living things was when the head of the ASPCA used electricity to experimentally kill "hundreds" of stray dogs, testing various voltages, electrodes, immersed and non-immersed samples, etc, to find out which killed the quickest and most humanely. I thought that was an interesting fact, since experimenting like that seems to the modern eye to constitute cruelty in itself (although it's probably better than whatever they used to euthanize the dogs before that). AnnaGoFast (talk) 19:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability/Quality

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Since the article has hordes of unsourced content and many self-referenced contents, not sure how notable this is. Its creation and the multitiude of deleted edits are at least some cause of suspicion too.Lihaas (talk) 08:10, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Life skills

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SPCA 41.242.160.45 (talk) 14:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History copyedit + Animal relocation

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Hi! I'm Daysi from ASPCA. This is my first time making an edit request. Since I have a conflict of interest, I added the disclosure banner at the top of the page and will suggest changes here instead of changing the article myself. Here are my first suggestions:

  • In History, the article says "Also in 2019, the ASPCA also took over responsibility for The Right Horse Initiative as an official program of the ASPCA."
  • Having "also" twice is redundant, I suggest replacing "Also in 2019" with "That year" or removing one instance of "also".
  • The Animal Relocation section is quite brief. I'd like to suggest expanding it. I prepared the paragraph below on the program.
  • Suggested text: ASPCA works with other animal welfare organizations and rescue groups to relocate animals from areas with high rates of euthanasia in animal shelters to locations with higher adoption rates. Often, animals are moved from the southern to northern U.S. states. Animals may be transported using aircraft or vehicles, sometimes being relayed between transporters multiple times along the way. As of March 2022, ASPCA had a fleet of 18 vans used for transport. The organization relocated approximately 200,000 animals between 2017 and 2022.[1]

References

  1. ^ Blum, Andrew (February 3, 2022). "How America Saved Millions of Dogs—By Moving Them". Time. Retrieved February 10, 2023.

If you have any thoughts or questions about my request please let me know! I am eager to learn about this process and hope I can be helpful. Thanks, ~~~~ Daysiyeates (talk) 19:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done JSFarman (talk) 23:16, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much! Daysiyeates (talk) 22:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addition to Legislation and litigation

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Hi again! For my second suggestion, I have some recent history that I propose adding to the Legislation and litigation section. Here it is:

ASPCA was among the animal welfare groups that supported the "puppy mill pipeline" bill in New York, which was signed by Governor Kathy Hochul on December 15, 2022. The law goes into effect in 2024, and will make it illegal to sell dogs, cats, and rabbits in pet stores in New York.[1] The organization's senior director of state legislation said the law is needed because many puppies are imported from other states where New York does not have jurisdiction to inspect the conditions in the breeding facility.[2]

References

  1. ^ Harding, Robert (December 16, 2022). "NY law ends 'puppy mill pipeline,' bans pet stores from selling cats, dogs and rabbits". The Citizen. Retrieved February 10, 2023.
  2. ^ Collins, Kate (December 15, 2022). "NY Puppy Mill Pipeline Bill signed into law by Gov. Hochul". Ithaca Journal. Retrieved February 10, 2023.

Let me know what you think. Happy to hear feedback and questions. Since I have a COI, I won't make any changes myself. User:JSFarman, would you be interested in reviewing another request for me?

Thank you in advance for the assistance! Daysiyeates (talk) 22:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - RichT|C|E-Mail 15:13, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rich Smith: Thank you very much! Daysiyeates (talk) 20:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of ASPCA Humane Law Enforcement Division into American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals

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Large amount of overlap. Remove the outdated legal details and uncited material from ASPCA Humane Law Enforcement Division and merge it to American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Apocheir (talk) 23:18, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - the law enforcement division operated for 150 years and I'm seeing plenty of coverage in searches for sources (newspapers.com, etc.). It's an unusual law enforcement division and was even the subject of a reality TV series, Animal Precinct. It could use improvement, but it's notable enough for a stand-alone article. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:24, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Closing, with no merge, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 11:14, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Behavior rehabilitation centers

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Hi, it's Daysi again. I've got another addition to suggest. Would editors be willing to add a section on our behavior rehabilitation centers? This has been a major project for the organization, and I think is an important part of our recent history. Here's my proposed section:

ASPCA operates centers where dogs that have experienced abuse or trauma receive treatment and behavior rehabilitation before being cleared for adoption. As of 2022, the organization has committed $40 million to building and operating the centers, which are located in Weaverville, North Carolina[1], Columbus, Ohio[2], with another being developed in Pawling, New York.[1] The Weaverville center opened in 2020 and, according to Rolling Stone, was the world's first clinic for treating dogs that have been severely traumatized. The concept was conceived in 2010 by two ASPCA behaviorists as a way to reduce the number of dogs that are euthanized in shelters for behavior issues. The organization piloted the program in 2013 at a temporary site in Madison, New Jersey and reported that approximately 90 percent of the dogs treated recovered enough to be adopted. In 2014, ASPCA purchased land in Weaverville where it built the center. As of July 2022, the Weaverville center had 35 full-time staff, and had rehabilitated 500 dogs since opening.[1]

References

  1. ^ a b c Solotaroff, Paul (July 4, 2022). "1,000 Dogs Are Put Down Every Day. These Trainers Are Trying to Save Them". Rolling Stone. Retrieved February 10, 2023.
  2. ^ Spears, Darcy (November 21, 2022). "More than 170 dogs euthanized in Nye County cruelty case". KTNV. Retrieved February 10, 2023.

I am open to reviewing editors making changes, and appreciate any feedback. Since I have a COI, I will avoid making any direct edits myself. User:Rich Smith, if you have time to take a look here, please feel free! Thanks everyone, Daysiyeates (talk) 20:46, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Daysiyeates: Pawling, New York leads to a Disambiguation page. Can you more closely define the correct article it should point to? I also don't think we need the 'according to Rolling Stone, you have already cited it, thats fine - RichT|C|E-Mail 23:54, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rich Smith: Thanks for your feedback! I have made those changes in the updated version below. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Thanks again, Daysiyeates (talk) 20:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ASPCA operates centers where dogs that have experienced abuse or trauma receive treatment and behavior rehabilitation before being cleared for adoption. As of 2022, the organization has committed $40 million to building and operating the centers, which are located in Weaverville, North Carolina[1], Columbus, Ohio[2], with another being developed in Pawling, New York.[1] The Weaverville center opened in 2020 and was the world's first clinic for treating dogs that have been severely traumatized. The concept was conceived in 2010 by two ASPCA behaviorists as a way to reduce the number of dogs that are euthanized in shelters for behavior issues. The organization piloted the program in 2013 at a temporary site in Madison, New Jersey and reported that approximately 90 percent of the dogs treated recovered enough to be adopted. In 2014, ASPCA purchased land in Weaverville where it built the center. As of July 2022, the Weaverville center had 35 full-time staff, and had rehabilitated 500 dogs since opening.[1]

References

  1. ^ a b c Solotaroff, Paul (July 4, 2022). "1,000 Dogs Are Put Down Every Day. These Trainers Are Trying to Save Them". Rolling Stone. Retrieved February 10, 2023.
  2. ^ Spears, Darcy (November 21, 2022). "More than 170 dogs euthanized in Nye County cruelty case". KTNV. Retrieved February 10, 2023.

@Daysiyeates: Done. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 10:53, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! Daysiyeates (talk) 21:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History updates

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Hello, Daysi from ASPCA here again. I have a couple of additions to suggest for the article's History section that I hope will provide some up to date information on the organization and its activities:

  • As of 2023, ASPCA's New York hospital was treating 9,000–10,000 patients annually.[1]
  • In 2023, the ASPCA began releasing an annual report that grades major grocery retailers in the United States on their policies around animal welfare, such as selling cage-free eggs and pork raised without gestation crates.[2]

References

  1. ^ Peltz, Jennifer (May 7, 2023). "Across town from show dogs, a labor to save suffering ones". Associated Press. Retrieved October 31, 2023.
  2. ^ Rajagopal, Alarice (September 1, 2023). "Sprouts Farmers Market, Whole Foods receive 'A' grade for animal welfare". Supermarket News. Retrieved October 31, 2023.

@JSFarman and Rich Smith: Tagging the two of you here because you responded to my previous requests. If either of you are interested in reviewing, I'd be curious to hear what you think. Thanks! Daysiyeates (talk) 17:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Approved  Spintendo  02:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! Daysiyeates (talk) 22:35, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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