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Archbishopric vs Archdiocese

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Why has the page Archbishopric of Arad been merged with Archdiocese of Arad? As Romania is a Orthodox country, the archbishopric of Arad easily can be identified as the episcopal see of the ROC, and the ROC does not use the term of diocese as to designate its administrative structures. I would say that the designation of diocese applied to an Orthodox Church is somewhat non standard and should be avoided. In Romania the usage of the term diocese and archdiocese is traditional to the use of the Catholic Church. Ioan-Mihai Gale I (talk) 11:02, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 July 2015

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The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/c 16:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]



Archdiocese of AradArchbishopric of Arad – Proper name for the recognized structure of the Romanian Orthodox Church Ioan-Mihai Gale I (talk) 17:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 09:07, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Requested move 8 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 57 17:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Bishopric of AradArchdiocese of Arad – Recently, this page was moved to the current title with the rather bizarre rationale of "no such thing as Archdiocese of Arad". I'm not quite sure what the mover was thinking, because there very much is such a thing. If you take a look at its official site, you'll note that "arhi-" prefix. It means "arch", as in "archdiocese", a rank which it's held since 2009. As to the rest of the word, that tiresome debate over eeparchy/bishopric/diocese - well, "diocese" is standard English, which is why we use it for all similar divisions of the Romanian Orthodox Church. (Archdiocese of Bucharest, Archdiocese of Râmnic, Diocese of Caransebeș, Archdiocese of Vad, Feleac and Cluj, Romanian Orthodox Archdiocese of America and Canada.) There is zero reason for an exception in this case, so I request we move back as soon as possible and end this silly experiment.

@Jenks24:, @Andrewa:, as participants in the previous move request, you may wish to join this one as well. Biruitorul Talk 20:30, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Suppot: Recent move stunned me because it is clear that correct title of that page should remain "Archdiocese of Arad" or "Archbishopric of Arad". User "Biruitorul" is right, that is the official name. Explanation of user "Zoupan" that there is "no such thing as Archdiocese of Arad" might be quite surprising for those who are not familiar with actions of that user, but it actually did not surprise me, because few days ago he tried something similar with page Eparchy of Lipljan while I was still working on it on the first day I created it. I told him then that I think he has an agenda, and I am quite certain now that his actions against Eastern Orthodox pages reveal the nature of that agenda. Sorabino (talk) 22:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I went by Gbooks, which shows that: "Archdiocese of Arad" is used 0 times, "Archbishopric of Arad" 0, while "bishopric of Arad" is used 10 times. this directly related site uses "Arad Bishopric". Arhiepiscopia Aradului is not translated into "Archdiocese", but "Archbishopric". So, no, the page move should not be reverted. @Sorabino: are you calling me anti-Orthodox or something?--Zoupan 01:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, but support move to "Archbishopric of Arad".--Zoupan 01:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC) --Zoupan 03:16, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note that those that use "diocese" in WP are most often diaspora eparchies, except for Russian. I agree a wider discussion is needed.--Zoupan 00:08, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suppot, again: Common search on Google shows that term "Archdiocese of Arad" has 1670 hits, in English, and that is very good considering the fact that former Diocese of Arad was raised to rank od Archdiocese quite recently, in 2009. So, there is no rel issue here! Page should be called "Archdiocese of Arad" since that is consistent with its real name, and also with terminology used for other archdioceses of Romanian Orthodox Church. And I must respond to @Zoupan: You are creating problems where there should be none. This issue is non-existent, and I suspect that you are quite aware of that. So, why on Earth are you pushing this? If you do not like the fact that Eastern Orthodox seat of Arad is Romanian, I must remind you that it had Romanian ethnic majority even in the times when it was part of our Metropolitanate of Karlovci. I am an ethnic Serb and I must ask you, please, do not make problems for our Romanian neighbors! User "Biruitorul" has a point in this mater, that can not be reasonably denied. Sorabino (talk) 05:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not vote twice. Those hits are not right. "Archbishopric" is consistent with its real name, Arhiepiscopia. Don't make this into an ethnic issue.--Zoupan 07:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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