Talk:Armorial of schools in England
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[edit]The original article is Armorial of schools in the United Kingdom. The England section grew impractically large so I moved it to a separate page and divided the list according to region. Otherwise the directives are the same as before:
- Universities and other higher education institutions have been done on a different page. This page is for primary and secondary education.
- A lot of schools have logo designs of a pseudo-heraldic nature, in a shield shape but not conforming to the rules. To be on this page the device must actually be a shield of arms - even if assumed - which can be properly blazoned.
- Some of the schools have changed their name, merged, split or dissolved entirely since becoming armigerous. Entries are styled as was correct at the time of matriculation.
- Fair use is not accepted on pages like this, so if a non-free image is used on the institution's own article (such as copied from its website) it must be recreated as a free image for this one.
Robin S. Taylor (talk) 13:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]Please see below - alert and notification of removal of images because on non-compliance with WP:NFLISTS
Greetings. I've just removed 42 non-free files from Armorial of schools in England. Please be aware of WP:NFLISTS. We do not generally allow an article of this type to have non-free files used in this way. Your addition of these images resulted in this article using more non-free content than any other article on the entire project of over 6 million articles but one. We do not use non-free imagery in this way. I'll be making a similar removal at Armorial of British universities, as the additions of non-free files there made it the 3rd highest article in terms of non-free image use.
Also, while I appreciate your attempt to comply with WP:NFCC #10c in adding rationales for use such as you did here, a purpose of use that is "Logo is used for illustration" is insufficient. If the only requirement that we had for using non-free files here is that we are using them for illustration, there would be absolutely no limitation on the use of non-free images.
I'm sorry to undo your work, but this is a necessary thing. If you have questions about this, let me know. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:49, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
I would be interested in other editors opinions on this, specifically with regard to the following:
a) the article may be the largest or smallest user of non-free images - this is irrelevant
b) if the rationale is 'insufficent', it can for sure be strengthened, recognising that heraldry is a visual art form and as such an image is essential to the exposition
c) WP:NFLISTS does not prohibit using multiple non-free images, it states they 'should be used judiciously'. I contend this is the case here
Hjamesberglen (talk) 10:43, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Given that this talk page has seen 13 pageviews in the last year [1], it's highly unlikely we'll have anything other than a 50/50 disagreement on this point. I've started a discussion at WT:NFC on this point, where there are considerably more eyes to evaluate this. See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Use_of_non-free_files_in_list_articles. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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