Talk:Arthur Dove

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Discussion[edit]

That discussion continues...Modernist (talk) 22:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion was closed in favor of removal. Werieth (talk) 22:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from User talk:Coldcreation

Your revert of my edits to Arthur Dove is in direct contracted with the policy-backed consensus at WP:NFCR. Regardless of whether there is a FUR, consensus determined that the images fail WP:NFCC and should therefore be removed. I do not care either way, I just made the close as an uninvolved editor. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:30, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do care. These images need to be seen. Coldcreation (talk) 22:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, because YOU feel the images need to be seen, its okay to go against WP:CONSENSUS and WP:NFCC? -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No need to scream. I will find more public domain images of this important artists works (published before 1923). Coldcreation (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do apologize for raising my caps; you are correct that was uncalled for. Also, I should have phrased it better, I do not care if the images are used. But I do care if policy is followed and consensus determined that those images did not. It looks like there are many many paintings by Dove that are in the public domain. The other option is to make the images not violate WP:NFCC (specifically #8) and gain consensus for their inclusion. As an outsider, it looks like there is no context of the Me and the Moon image in the infobox. Per WP:NFCC there must be critical commentary and there was none. For the other image (Nature Symbolized or Reefs) the article only discusses that he creates it. Point 8 of WP:NFCC requires that there be content in the article about the non-free images that requires the images be included. What this breaks down to is you don't need to see the image to know he painted it. But if there were content about the style he painted on that specific image, and why he painted, or the colors, etc, it would be necessary to the image being there. Good luck with whatever you choose to do. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Many American painters forgot to affix a copyright notice to paintings when they were exhibited at art galleries. Such paintings are in the public domain per {{PD-US-no notice}}. To qualify for {{PD-US-no notice}}, the exhibition must have been before 1978, the painting must have been without a copyright notice, the exhibition must have been open to the general public, and the art gallery or museum must not have prohibited photography when the painting was exhibited. Many American paintings are also in the public domain because the painter didn't renew the copyright; see {{PD-US-not renewed}}. It is therefore possible that all paintings by this painter might be in the public domain, but this may be hard to show as you may need to know the exhibition history for a painting and know whether a particular museum permitted photography in the 1930s or 1940s. See Commons:Commons:Public art and copyrights in the US for some further information. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Stefan appreciated...Modernist (talk) 23:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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