Talk:Aruba at the 2008 Summer Olympics

Aruba at the 2008 Summer Olympics has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
February 26, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
March 2, 2011	Good article reassessment	Delisted
August 2, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Aruba at the 2008 Summer Olympics/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hello! Done Begin as of now and will end in a few minutes! ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Great article; I disagree with the ip-address above; size is quite immaterial. I will pass it to GA. Regards!-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pass/Fail:

Lead

A great lead, which summarize the content below.

Opening and closing ceremonies

"Opening Ceremony" should not be capitalized

Done. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Judo

"Judoka" should be linked

Done. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Swimming

Everything correct

References

Ref 1: What does '''[sic]''' means in the title parameter? The work is "multimedia.olympic.org" and the publisher the IOC.

Explanation "sic" is used because in the work, the people misspelled Beijing as "Bejing." Sic means "as is." --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Work and publisher issue addressed. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 2: Why is the language "French and English"? I only see English. The work is "multimedia.olympic.org" and the publisher the IOC.

Explanation It actually is in English and French. There are rows in both languages. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Work and publisher issue addressed. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 3 seems to be fine
Ref 4 also
The last ref is very strange and don't think it belongs there. I would create a section called "External links" and put it there.

Done + Comment I think that it was used to source the article previously, when it was just a stub. I've removed it because it now seems pretty extraneous. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 01:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If these things are done, I will change to GA-status. Congratulation and Regards!-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Too many short paragraphs imo to be a GA. Needs to be brilliant. this is not

Wow, a very great review. You know, that size is not the most relevant thing for articles; quality ahead quantity. There is really nothing to add in the paragraphs, or have you a suggestion? "Needs to be brilliant"; no it should be good not "brilliant". And don't forget the four tildes after your comment.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:34, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For short articles it needs to be brilliant. For longer articles good. Read GA instead of embarrasing your self —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.102.254.209 (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Aruba at the 2008 Summer Olympics/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

GA review (see here for criteria)

Based on the concerns expressed at WT:GAN, I'm reassessing this article's GA status. I'm reviewing this revision of the article.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
The article is so short, but if concise prose is the ruler by which we measure writing quality, this passes, sadly. There's just not much text here though to judge the quality any further.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
This article is a bit too hyper-focused. The short length (no body paragraph longer than three sentences) tells me that the article is not comprehensive. I've worked on M-209 (Michigan highway), which is about a 0.543-mile (0.874 km) former state highway in my home state of Michigan, and I still wrote a longer article than this one. For this limited of a subject, I'd expect some more information on the athletes. Some basic biographical information on them, maybe their reaction to the experience at being at the games. What about budgetary expenditures by Aruba to send the athletes and participate? Did they sent coaches or other officials to Beijing? There are plenty of avenues to expand this article.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Only the flags. Too bad there aren't photos of either athlete to help illustrate the article
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Based solely on concerns over coverage, I can not, in good conscience, leave this article as a Good Article. Please add some actual content to the article before renomination. Imzadi 1979 → 12:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For such a short article, I would have expected the original reviewer to have spotted two failures to comply with the GA criteria without any difficulty. These were (1) "References" before "See also", a breach of WP:LAYOUT; and (2) information in the lead but not in the body of the article (the date of the judo match), a breach of WP:LEAD. I have fixed both. I have no issues with the reassessment above. Bencherlite ^Talk 12:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse the above, and thank you for the review. While I did flag this article in more than one place, I didn't feel it would be appropriate for me to delist this myself, however clear cut I considered the decision to be. —W F C— 12:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the delisting. The article simply meets the criteria; there are no more information about Aruba at the 2008 Summer Olympics, even not at the official website. --♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 12:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm finding several press sources easily on Google News quoting the Aruban IOC member. Searching by the athletes' names pulls up additional results, some of which are in Dutch. Just because the official website does not contain the information does not mean it does not exist at all. Sorry, but this article needs, and can have, more content to be worthy of the rating you bestowed. Imzadi 1979 → 12:53, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I added a section. Can you please give me the links for that?--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 13:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I removed it. Copyvios are not allowed. Bencherlite ^Talk 13:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Aruba at the 2008 Summer Olympics/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sp33dyphil ^{"Ad astra"} 08:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What country is Aruba? I dare say that a lot of readers would have no clue what it is.
"Beijing, People's Republic of China."
"Comité Olimpico Arubano" italicise, since it's a foreign term.
"did not medal." any missing word?
"Olympic games by 2008, ~~where~~ when its entrance" by the way, games should be capitalised.
"aboard ~~the~~ KLM Flight 765" the implies that Flight 765 has received significant coverage, which I don't think it has, or was mentioned earlier in the article.
"Judo at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Qualification" should replace hyphen with dash.
"for FINA by doing well" please spell FINA's full name because it's the first time the organisation is mentioned.
"List of Flagbearers Bejing [sic] 2008" why's there a "[sic]" tag?

Fixed sans the first issue, since not sure what I can do besides have the link in the first word. As for the sic tag, Beijing is spelled wrong (Bejing). Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

End note

Very happy with the article – no major problems, and it complies with GA standards. Hope this will get FA status. Sp33dyphil ^{"Ad astra"} 00:22, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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