Talk:Aruna Shanbaug case
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Need a news source done in other language
[edit]English language newspapers aren't covering this. Someone who speaks the language of that nation, needs to do a Google news source, and add in a link to some results. Dream Focus 23:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
There's plenty of English language coverage. I have added a citation. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- I realize why I was having a hard time finding coverage (and thus why I put it up for speedy deletion). The page title is misspelled. It should be "Shanbaug". Inks.LWC (talk) 23:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
BLP1-E?
[edit]- This seems like a BLP1-E. Can the article be retitled to be about the event? There doesn't seem to be much as far as a biography goes. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Done CoM. Off2riorob (talk) 14:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Social Ostracisation Ignored
[edit]The possibility of concealment of rape by the hospital authorities though not a definitive provable fact cannot be completely written off as partisan considering the implications on the social status of the victim in those circumstances. Please do not delete or modify the article without further discussion. --YH1975 (talk) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Extremely Insensitive
[edit]This article is insensitive and offensive in the way it describes a victim who has been in a coma for 37 years. Especially, the line "That "muscle in her mouth" with which she flayed a subordinate for not doing his job no longer receives any signals from her brain" though taken from an article in an obscure magazine is of extremely poor taste and should be unacceptable for international readers.
- I agree. I have removed it. Thank you for pointing that out. Bus stop (talk) 15:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Title
[edit]I think the title of this article can be further simplified to Attempted murder of Aruna Shanbaug - the simpler the better, neither the year nor the "robbery" bit are necessary. – ukexpat (talk) 14:53, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
- if we are going to keep this article, this title would sound better. --CarTick (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- I have no objections. Off2riorob (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- Aruna Shanbaug Case sounds just fine. Glad someone changed that. The case is famous and has lasting effects in India. No need to mention rape, robbery, assault, and attempted murder in the title. Dream Focus 12:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- To comply with naming conventions it should be Aruna Shanbaug case if we are going to use this form of words. I will move it again. – ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
"Comatosed"
[edit]Some editors are trying to add this non-existent word here. It is better to use "in a coma" or simply "comatose", per Merriam-Webster's dictionary. — Wyliepedia 08:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
2015 consideration of renaming title
[edit]Reading through this article it seems more like a biography of Aruna Shanbaug, so should this not be the title rather than Aruna Shanbaug case? I propose to rename the article to Aruna Shanbaug and would request comments - Master Of Ninja (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- Per WP:BLP1E, the title of articles like this is normally not the person's name. Given that her name redirects here, it is not a big deal to leave it as is. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- ThaddeusB, I don't think that WP:BLP1E is applied here because she is not living person, she just died yesterday. But I also think that making biographic article on her may not work because most of her life she was in coma. So nothing much to write on her life apart from this case--Human3015 Say Hey!! • 14:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- BLP applies to recently deceased people. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- ThaddeusB, I don't think that WP:BLP1E is applied here because she is not living person, she just died yesterday. But I also think that making biographic article on her may not work because most of her life she was in coma. So nothing much to write on her life apart from this case--Human3015 Say Hey!! • 14:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Coma vs PVS
[edit]Which is it? They are not the same thing. See coma and persistent vegetative state.--ukexpat (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- You are correct. The problem is we have one source, from The Guardian, saying it was a coma while we have another source, the BBC, saying it was a vegetative state and includes a sentence differentiating it from a coma. I've changed it to reflect the BBC article since its agreed that a coma and a vegetative state are not the same. Karnage2015 (talk) 07:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Date of birth
[edit]I think we should change this to 1950. The Supreme Court file (http://supremecourtofindia.nic.in/outtoday/wr1152009.pdf) documents her being 60 in 2011. The rest of the articles are a bit different, but I suspect we should take the court document as the more reliable document. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:41, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- For reference here are the birthday refs as they stand now. --Jeremyb (talk) 14:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- "KEM nurses, dean celebrate Aruna Shanbaug's birthday". Hindustan Times. 2 June 2011. Retrieved 18 May 2015.
- "KEM Hospital celebrates Aruna Shanbaug's 64th birthday". The Times of India. 2 June 2012. Retrieved 18 May 2015.
- "KEM celebrates Aruna Shanbaug's 65th birthday". DNA India. 2 June 2013. Retrieved 18 May 2015.
Pinki Virani Next Friend
[edit]Given that Ms Shanbaug was 25 years old at the time of her assault, and that Ms Virani was eleven years younger than her, she would have been a child at this time. Were Pinki and Aruna already friends before this event (perhaps family friends), or did the relationship begin after Aruna Shanbaug became comatose/vegetative? In this latter case, the friendship may have been rather asymmetrical, and this situation may have been taken into account by the court. Whichever is the case, it should be clarified in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.142.162 (talk) 10:23, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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